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People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up


My son-in-law told my other daughter (not his wife) that Bernie wants to tax incomes of $700K at 90% and $150K at 70%.
Even if he was correct, he gave the impression the higher rates would be on the entire amount.

I'll straighten him out when I get a chance but this is the bullsh*t we are dealing with.
People spewing lies topped off with ignorance.
And he told her Bernie is a "socialist". This from a Marine who collects disability checks and VA benefits.

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 02:21:42 PM »
I know that's a bouncy tale, but I sure would love to be able to slap the whole living shit out of that dummy.
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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 02:23:03 PM »
Well, burnie IS a socialist, but no matter what you label him, hes a holder of collectivist ideology.

Inevitably, collectivist ideology sooner or later leads to the elimination of private property rights, and the compulsion into compliance, by force, of those who disagree.



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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 09:27:09 PM »
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I'll straighten him out when I get a chance but this is the bullsh*t we are dealing with.

You didn't do it on the spot, why?  :bouncy:

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And he told her Bernie is a "socialist". This from a Marine who collects disability checks and VA benefits.

The cognitive disconnect is shattering.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2015, 09:29:59 PM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 09:43:02 PM »
I understand the screw-the-rich, success-punishing "progressive" income tax. It's legalized theft.

And in answer to the knee-jerk question that any DU-member chancing to see this post would ask, my household income has never been over $100K. The "progressive" income tax scheme doesn't gore my ox.
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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 09:51:43 PM »
In a certain sense Bernie isn't a classic Socialist, since he hasn't as far as I know come out in favor of state ownership of the means of production or alternatively state allocation of resources, production levels, and prices by technically-private businesses...of course the regular Democrats want all production so tied up with interlocking and often conflicting laws and regulations to address every little donor errr, 'interest' group that the difference can be hard to tell for the observer...
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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 03:42:08 AM »
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People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up

So you're going to take your own advice then?


My son-in-law told my other daughter (not his wife) that Bernie wants to tax incomes of $700K at 90% and $150K at 70%.
Even if he was correct, he gave the impression the higher rates would be on the entire amount.

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I'll straighten him out when I get a chance but this is the bullsh*t we are dealing with.

Yeah let's see how that works out for you.  Can't wait for the bouncy on this one.

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People spewing lies topped off with ignorance.

That's 99% of DU

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And he told her Bernie is a "socialist". This from a Marine who collects disability checks and VA benefits.

Bernie himself ADMITS he's a Socialist you 10 watt light bulb. 

As for that Marine...he EARNED whatever disability check and VA benefits he's getting.  He didn't create some limp dick excuse for why he can't work like your waste of space Libtard brethren do.  More than likely he collects his check because he served in places like Fallujah or Camp Leatherneck or some other shit hole FOB doing his best to make sure some Jihadi group blew themselves up in a hot dusty land instead of outside his mother-in-laws house...and the thanks he gets from you is an unwarranted ungrateful load of shit.
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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 06:14:49 AM »
A few questions for lurking DUmp idiots.

Whenever there is discussion of the nearly 50% in this country that pay no federal income tax you always brush it off by talking about all the other taxes they pay,sales,property,SS etc.

Why is it then when the conversation rolls around to how the "wealthy" should be taxed at 50-70% this is forgotten?

I am probably in what would be considered lower middle class and all taxes combined am in the 50% range so a person earning enough to trigger your magical progressive income tax bracket would be moved to a 75-95% total tax burden.
Meanwhile all you mutts do is talk about how you should not have to work for a living thus putting you at best into a 0-25% tax burden area.
I know my numbers are rough estimates but bet are not far off.

Given that capital is very mobile (look up British tax exiles) do you actually think that is going to work?
Are you really that ****ing stupid?


On edit will save you the trouble of looking.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-bands-taxes/

Notice how many of those are oh so generous with others money too.
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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 06:25:43 AM »
A few questions for lurking DUmp idiots.

Whenever there is discussion of the nearly 50% in this country that pay no federal income tax you always brush it off by talking about all the other taxes they pay,sales,property,SS etc.

Why is it then when the conversation rolls around to how the "wealthy" should be taxed at 50-70% this is forgotten?

I am probably in what would be considered lower middle class and all taxes combined am in the 50% range so a person earning enough to trigger your magical progressive income tax bracket would be moved to a 75-95% total tax burden.
Meanwhile all you mutts do is talk about how you should not have to work for a living thus putting you at best into a 0-25% tax burden area.
I know my numbers are rough estimates but bet are not far off.

Given that capital is very mobile (look up British tax exiles) do you actually think that is going to work?
Are you really that ****ing stupid?


On edit will save you the trouble of looking.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-bands-taxes/

Notice how many of those are oh so generous with others money too.

You'll get no coherent answer, if one even braved the attempt.  All the infant sees is the candy.  The infant has no idea how it got there, who made it or how it was created.

Once the pile is gone, it cries.
              

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 06:49:24 AM »
A few questions for lurking DUmp idiots.

Whenever there is discussion of the nearly 50% in this country that pay no federal income tax you always brush it off by talking about all the other taxes they pay,sales,property,SS etc.

Why is it then when the conversation rolls around to how the "wealthy" should be taxed at 50-70% this is forgotten?

I am probably in what would be considered lower middle class and all taxes combined am in the 50% range so a person earning enough to trigger your magical progressive income tax bracket would be moved to a 75-95% total tax burden.
Meanwhile all you mutts do is talk about how you should not have to work for a living thus putting you at best into a 0-25% tax burden area.
I know my numbers are rough estimates but bet are not far off.

Given that capital is very mobile (look up British tax exiles) do you actually think that is going to work?
Are you really that ****ing stupid?


On edit will save you the trouble of looking.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-bands-taxes/

Notice how many of those are oh so generous with others money too.

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 07:03:47 AM »
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As for that marine...he EARNED whatever disability check and VA benefits he's getting.  He didn't create some limp dick excuse for why he can't work like your waste of space Libtard brethren do.  More than likely he collects his check because he served in places like Fallujah or Camp Leatherneck or some other shit hole FOB doing his best to make sure some Jihadi group blew themselves up in a hot dusty land instead of outside his mother-in-laws house...and the thanks he gets from you is an unwarranted ungrateful load of shit.

You beat me to it TX, It's funny how these idiots don't understand that a military disability check is not the same as an SSDI check. I know a man who got disability for having lost both his legs in an IED blast in Ramadi. That isn't socialism, that is taking care of the people who take care of us. The fact that the DUche fails to understand that shows how big of a waste of space he is. 

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 07:09:09 AM »
You beat me to it TX, It's funny how these idiots don't understand that a military disability check is not the same as an SSDI check. I know a man who got disability for having lost both his legs in an IED blast in Ramadi. That isn't socialism, that is taking care of the people who take care of us. The fact that the DUche fails to understand that shows how big of a waste of space he is. 

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Re: People who don't understand progressive tax rates should shut up
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2015, 07:22:15 AM »
... That isn't socialism, that is taking care of the people who take care of us. ...

Libs, Progs, etc. hate definitions because they're too confining. So the Progs' "definition" flexes to fit their purpose: if the Prog is advocating socialism, saying it's no big deal, two neighbors fixing a boundary fence is "socialism"; if the Prog is trying to obscure and obfuscate socialism then Marx wasn't reeeealy a socialist.
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