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Offline dutch508

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I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« on: November 01, 2015, 07:24:27 AM »
... and that's just the photo threads!


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I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness

I am tempted to respond to some of these threads and enter the fray, but I get as far as clicking the reply button and think better of it. I'll only add more negativity to the discussion.

Then it occurs to me: I can do something positive. So, thank you Sec. Clinton for the baseless claims that Sen. Sanders is a sexist! Thank you rabid supporters of Clinton for the relentless double standards about BLM! Thanks to all the folks who see Hillary come out with a position (finally!) and cheer for her courage and right stance on the issue. Nevermind that her focus-group approved positions take so long to develop and only exist on many issues because Bernie gives them a voice.

Yes, it took all of you to make me realize that a snarky reply isn't the answer. No, a donation is a much sweeter way to combat all this negativity.

So, there you go, Bernie! Keep it about the issues! Keep it positive! Keep it up!

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
2. I watch the bashers of BLM try to use BLM to trash black posters. I find that amusing.

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4. You would absolutely find that amusing. However, some of us are paying attention to the real issues.

 :lmao:

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
6. Hypocrisy and racism are real issues
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So far the only racism in this country seems to be the fake kind your group uses to justify rioting and murder of police officers.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
27. Racism is life or death. As long as it stands, we will make no progress on anything as a people.

Is it? 95%+ of black murders is done by other black people! There is no systematic oppression of blacks by whites except the Democratic party trying to keep you on their 'plantation'.

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beam me up scottie (38,652 posts)
7. Some people think it's all about them. Others focus on the issues.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
14. It is about me alot of the time. My issues are important and I will be loud. Always. Strong women do that.

No- it really isn't about you a lot of the time. BLM makes everything about them; even after it's proven to be a lie or a hoax they still make it about 'racism'.

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beam me up scottie (38,652 posts)
85. This isn't about social justice vs economic justice.

It's about vilifying Bernie's supporters and a waging a smear campaign against the Senator from Vermont because of perceived slights by those supporters.

It's a page out straight out of Karl Rove's playbook and imo, if someone truly cares about the issues they shouldn't be swift boating a Dem candidate who could very well end up with the nomination. [ Well, it's a play right out of the Clinton handbook, that is for sure.]

Afaic, Bernie is the better candidate on both social and economic justice - some may consider one more important than the other but I don't believe they can be separated. You cannot have one without the other.

If others feel Hillary is better on the issues that is their right.

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16. I don't see anyone "bashing BLM". It seems that all dissenting discussion is labelled as "bashing" in an attempt to silence the discussion.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
26. I never called them all racist. There is need to repeat myself though. I must.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
63. I am enjoyimg repeating myself. People have short memories. I remind them.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
73. Really? Don't feel bad.

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Live and Learn (6,138 posts)
71. Well, I don't enjoy it. So if that is your goal, you have suceeded. Enough really is enough.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
74. Did you tell the other side the same thing? Ever?

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Live and Learn (6,138 posts)
77. What 'other side'?

If you would check back in time, you would find that I and many others in the Bernie group have been fervent supporters of BLM since it began (and even before it began actually).

As such, I can't support your posts chastising Bernie and his supporters when they have been BLM supporters. In fact, if you really go back in time on DU, you will find that many of those that chastised supporters of Michael Brown are Hillary supporters not Bernie supporters.

I support Bernie because I think he really will do something about the unjust justice system, racial injustice and economic injustice. Oh, and he wants to do something real to stop or slow climate change which will affect us all and kill many of all races. Plus, he is against war which as you know, kills a whole slew of minorities all over the world.

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bravenak (16,670 posts)
78. Bernie is pro drone.

Bernie voted yes on the crime bill which gave us mass incarceration. If people did not place halos on him and tell black people that he is best for them, Bernie would have more of a shot. We can look this stuff up.
If people stopped quoting MLK to us like we never read MLK. Bernie would do better.
If people did not follow me to call me racist constantly. I would shut up.
If people did not lie about their behaviour or pretend that it was not bad. I would shut up.
If the same people who blasted BLM and called them trolls and inhuman and terrible names did not now try to use that same group as a weapon against me? I COULD shut up.
If people stopped pretending that he is a saint and she is a mad villain from another planet? I could shut up.
If people spent more time telling their side to not say stuff like race card and gender card and race baiter and whine and whine about BLM callimg out Seattle for white supremacy and stopped pretending those women sent a personal letter directly naming them white supremacist to their door? It would be easy to shut up.
If I could get that. Fine. But I won't. So, nobody gets what they want. I'm not gonna shut up while they get to blah blah blah, but I for some reason need to stop. Why the different standard? Shut them up and let me know you got it done then I will promptly shut up too.

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Live and Learn (6,138 posts)
84. Pro drone? As opposed to putting boots on the ground?

I could take each line and oppose it but it seems pointless.

Nobody wants you to shut up. And I have no idea who you want to shut up. I just don't want to read the same flame bait over and over again, day after day.

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5. That's the spirit! Boo hiss Hillary! Sanders or bust!

We'll see about that BLM double standard on election day when those who say they care about BLM decide to stay home and allow SCOTUS to go wingnut for a generation because their preferred candidate isn't on the ballot

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18. The Conservative Wing of the [Democratic] Party are willing to risk losing the general to insure that we won't have a progressive in the general. Seems it's up to you. Vote for the People's candidate, and insure that we defeat the Republicons and get a good SCOTUS. But a vote for HRC may well see us go Republicon. It's up to you. If you want to solve the poverty problem, you must vote for the People's choice. Goldman-Sachs don't give a crap about poverty.

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24. The vast majority of negativity here comes from Sanders supporters. eom

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31. The vast majority of negativity here comes from Clinton supporters. eom

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43. And thank you, DU, for the ignore button.

Nice knowing some of you...

^ that is the DU version of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting, "LALALALALALALALLALALALLALALALLALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!"
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2015, 07:30:54 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on November 01, 2015, 07:24:27 AM
... and that's just the photo threads!


 :rotf:

 :lmao:
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So far the only racism in this country seems to be the fake kind your group uses to justify rioting and murder of police officers.

Is it? 95%+ of black murders is done by other black people! There is no systematic oppression of blacks by whites except the Democratic party trying to keep you on their 'plantation'.

No- it really isn't about you a lot of the time. BLM makes everything about them; even after it's proven to be a lie or a hoax they still make it about 'racism'.

^ that is the DU version of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting, "LALALALALALALALLALALALLALALALLALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!"

I love the smell of dueling DUmmies in the morning. It does my heart good.
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Liberals disgust me. (Now I don't have to remember to put it on each post).

Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2015, 07:45:53 AM »
Well, I have absolutely NO mixed feelings about this.

When considered by themselves, I have no sympathy at all for bravenak's positions.

But when she uses those same positions to discombobulate the puffed-up arrogant stuffy pompous self-righteous holier-than-thou Bemie bullies, I say "give 'em Hell, you go, girl!"

Once the Bernie bullies learn and practice some humility, franksolch might become more favorably disposed towards them.

But that's about as likely to happen as Lamond waking up white Monday morning.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 09:48:19 AM »
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6. Hypocrisy and racism are real issues

They are, but not in the ways you mean, and only in relation to why your own posts are so stupid.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 10:21:19 AM »
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27. Racism is life or death. As long as it stands, we will make no progress on anything as a people.

So are fake thought crimes, jackass.  Some useful advice: You need to get over yourself.


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But that's about as likely to happen as Lamond waking up white Monday morning.



That's why he's the Coach, (D)Ummies.

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14. It is about me alot of the time. My issues are important and I will be loud. Always. Strong women do that.

No.  Psychotic, hormonal teenage girls do that.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 10:36:52 AM »
Skins' Island without ugliness?

Never happen. Bitter, self-abusing ugliness is their lifeblood.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 10:57:59 AM »
Quote from: Big Dog on November 01, 2015, 10:36:52 AM
Skins' Island without ugliness?

To paraphrase Henry V, that would be like war without fire, or sausages without mustard.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 11:40:13 AM »
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 02:13:47 PM »
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I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness

I am tempted to respond to some of these threads and enter the fray, but I get as far as clicking the reply button and think better of it. I'll only add more negativity to the discussion.

Then it occurs to me: I can do something positive. So, thank you Sec. Clinton for the baseless claims that Sen. Sanders is a sexist! Thank you rabid supporters of Clinton for the relentless double standards about BLM! Thanks to all the folks who see Hillary come out with a position (finally!) and cheer for her courage and right stance on the issue. Nevermind that her focus-group approved positions take so long to develop and only exist on many issues because Bernie gives them a voice.

Yes, it took all of you to make me realize that a snarky reply isn't the answer. No, a donation is a much sweeter way to combat all this negativity.

So, there you go, Bernie! Keep it about the issues! Keep it positive! Keep it up!
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14. It is about me alot of the time. My issues are important and I will be loud. Always. Strong women do that.
Another Occupy Wall Street.  :mental:

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78. Bernie is pro drone.

Bernie voted yes on the crime bill which gave us mass incarceration. If people did not place halos on him and tell black people that he is best for them, Bernie would have more of a shot. We can look this stuff up.
If people stopped quoting MLK to us like we never read MLK. Bernie would do better.
If people did not follow me to call me racist constantly. I would shut up.
If people did not lie about their behaviour or pretend that it was not bad. I would shut up.
If the same people who blasted BLM and called them trolls and inhuman and terrible names did not now try to use that same group as a weapon against me? I COULD shut up.
If people stopped pretending that he is a saint and she is a mad villain from another planet? I could shut up.
If people spent more time telling their side to not say stuff like race card and gender card and race baiter and whine and whine about BLM callimg out Seattle for white supremacy and stopped pretending those women sent a personal letter directly naming them white supremacist to their door? It would be easy to shut up.
If I could get that. Fine. But I won't. So, nobody gets what they want. I'm not gonna shut up while they get to blah blah blah, but I for some reason need to stop. Why the different standard? Shut them up and let me know you got it done then I will promptly shut up too.
Proof that Bernie Sanders supports drones?

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24. The vast majority of negativity here comes from Sanders supporters. eom
DU is a negative site full of negative people.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 04:40:27 PM »
If the braidneck were to shutup, it would indicate some form of intelligence, of which she has none.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2015, 09:39:25 AM »
It's always amusing to observe the lunatics running the asylum and flinging their shit each others' way.  :popcorn:  Now, if only we could confine them in cyberspace in perpetuity rather than have to deal with their delusions in real life, ah well, illegal fence crossers aren't the only ones allowed to DREAM.
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2015, 10:58:33 AM »
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2. I watch the bashers of BLM try to use BLM to trash black posters. I find that amusing.

I find it disgusting that the SJW's give a pass to the blatant racism that is generated from #blacklivesmatter
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Re: I look around here and I see a lot of ugliness
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 02:54:57 PM »
The Moonbats LOVE political bumper stickers.  I see them regularly, but never a #BlackLivesMatter.

I'm sure they're available.  The visibility would be great for the cause since EVERYONE would notice...general populace, police officers, etc.  I bet they'd get a reaction!

Only a coward would continually opine about BLM and not sport a #BlackLivesMatter bumper sticker for everyone to see.

BONUS:  They could also be used for (and they'll soon need to) cover one of these:

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