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Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« on: October 20, 2015, 10:09:57 PM »
Paul Ryan will take the job if he has a "formal endorsement from the Freedom Caucus before moving forward."
Rino Peter King (R-NY):  "If Paul Ryan can't unite us, no one can.  Who else is out there?"
Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC), Freedom Caucus member: 
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“The displeasure with the way the House has been managed since 2011 is pervasive and crosses all sorts of philosophical boundaries within the party.  The appetite for a new way of doing business is real, and whoever wants to be the speaker is going to have to speak to that.”

Ryan has many credentials, & has won the endorsement from Harry Reid & Luis Gutierrez.

- supports amnesty & open borders; is in like flint with the CoC.
- voted for TARP, Cromnibus & the bloated Farm Bill
- worked w/ Senator Patty Murray to pass the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2013, which "busts the budget"
- big advocate for O's global ObamaTrade
- voted for the Corker-Cardin bill 

So if the House trades Ryan for McCarthy & Boehner, why, its the same gang running things!  I say thumbs way down for Ryan.  They sure are spending alot of time on this speakership quest.  Maybe that's a good thing; slows down legislating which makes our lives harder.

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Re: Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 10:22:51 AM »
In my opinion, some of the articles on Hotair have steered toward moderate politics.  But on this one, not so.
Titled:  "The House needs a Speaker, but not an Emperor"

Another slant of Ryan's request to agreeing to take the position, reposted from Bloomberg:

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Ryan said he told fellow Republicans that he wants them to unify behind him, end leadership crises and let him continue spending time with his family. Ryan said he didn’t want to spend weekends away from his wife and children for the extensive travel and fundraising that have been a major part of the House speaker’s job.

“If you can agree to these requests and if I can truly be a unifying figure, then I will gladly serve,” Ryan, 45, of Wisconsin said, recounting what he said during the meeting. “This is not a job I’ve ever wanted,” he told reporters, but added that he “came to the conclusion that this is a very dire moment.”
Ryan said he wants an answer from fellow Republicans by the end of the week. “It’s in their hands,” he said.

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Ryan wants changes in a procedure for removing the House speaker, known as a motion to vacate the chair, his spokesman, Brendan Buck, said in an e-mailed statement. Freedom Caucus members’ threat to try to remove Boehner last month led to the speaker’s announcement that he will give up the job.
“No matter who is speaker, they cannot be successful with this weapon pointed at them all the time,” Buck said.

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Am I the only one who finds much of this troubling even in the midst of what can rightly be described as a leadership crisis? Right off the bat this conveys a sense of a coronation more than an election.

Yes, progressives/liberals have one thing in common:  control. That's why Boehner suspended the election, so he could get another like himself, in the slot.  Plus, I'm sure there was pressure from the CoC.  It also seems that Ryan did a 180 degree turn.  Several years ago he appeared to embrace conservative principles.  Not now.

A little dark humor from the comment section: 
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His Royal Highness Prince Paul RINO will condescend to become Speaker, but he has a list of demands:
No more “Vacate the Chair” motions. After all, the Peasantry shouldn’t be able to depose their “betters” 
Conservatives shall neither be seen nor heard.
Amnesty for every Illegal.
None shall be permitted to challenge The Prince for his Throne (no opposition)
The GOPe will WORK with Obama, not oppose him

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Re: Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 08:58:22 PM »
I console myself with the knowledge that the Speakership has been called the graveyard of higher political aspirations, ie., the Presidency.  Since Gutierrez is so enthusiastic about Ryan it tells me all I need to know about not wanting him to achieve that pinnacle.  No amnesty for illegals, or as Gutierrez calls them "my people".  He's certainly a traitor to the American people. :censored:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/21/luis-gutierrez-to-la-raza-get-amnesty-to-punish-americans-against-illegal-immigration/

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)believes Hispanics should get amnesty and citizenship to punish Americans who are against illegal immigration.

After he told the La Raza conference in Los Angeles that President Barack Obama gave the Latino community a “down payment” with his temporary amnesty program that halted the deportations “of our people,” Gutierrez urged Hispanics to seek retribution at the ballot box.
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Re: Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 10:49:53 AM »
Boudicca: 
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Since Gutierrez is so enthusiastic about Ryan it tells me all I need to know about not wanting him to achieve that pinnacle.
Absolutely right!  When an R has D support, its really all I need to know.

It appears that 27 - 29 members of the Freedom Caucus caved, based on promises of reforms without specifics.   
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An official statement said "a supermajority of the House Freedom Caucus has voted to support" Ryan.

I'm not usually into #'s, but, I think of it this way.  The minority of the Freedom Caucus members that didn't support Ryan are the only ones representing us constitutionalists.   

Two more liberals have come out in support of Ryan.  Hey, Pelosi, are you next?
 
 

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Re: Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 11:02:58 AM »
Who de we Cons want? Suggestion.
Also the Senate leader should be next!
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Re: Will the House Freedom Caucus support Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 02:50:45 PM »
Who de we Cons want? Suggestion.
Also the Senate leader should be next!

Dayum that Chinless Wonder should have been first.  DESPITE Boner's feeble attempts, the House actually managed to pass alot of substantial legislation.  The traitor from Kentucky, in conjunction with his good buddy Hairless Balls Reed, stifled and stymied every piece of legislation that could have assisted this country in shaking off the worst effects of Obastard's imperial rule.

I for one totally think that not only do we need to see impeachment proceedings against Boner and Chinless, but also against Reed and of course Pelosi.  These four assholes have totally subverted the will of the majority of Americans AND have inflicted grievous harm upon our nation.  If those offenses don't rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors I sure as hell don't have a clue what does.

Somewhere the ghosts of our Founding Fathers, not to mention MLK JR, Abraham Lincoln and all those freed slaves are weeping in despair that in less than three centuries our once glorious nation is in shambles and that's thanks, in no particular order, to the traitors in Congress and the Executive branches, their brainwashed through their paychecks drones and the utter moral vapidity and absolutely retarded blind adherence to them by voters ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE FOR DECADES.  Wow, and the political pundits wonder why we the voters, on both sides, absolutely are in revolt against politics as usual.
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