Will guns on campus lead to grade inflation?

[Patriot Guard Rider]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027251852

I'd be more scared of this unarmed prog in my classroom than I would a TRAINED, over-21, gun carrying student holding a valid CCW.

Star Member stone space (3,404 posts)

Will guns on campus lead to grade inflation?


Will Guns on Campus Lead to Grade Inflation?

By Jessica Smartt Gullion 4/30/15 at 11:48 AM

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With this proposed law, a question coming up for many academics is whether they would be forced to give A grades to undeserving students, just so they can avoid being shot.

This is not as far-fetched as it sounds. In my five years as a college professor, I have had experiences with a number of emotionally distressed students who resort to intimidation when they receive a lesser grade than what they feel they deserve.

Threats on Campus

Here is an example of one such threatening experience. One evening in a graduate course, after I handed back students’ papers, a young woman stood up and pointed at me. “This is unacceptable!” she screamed as her body shook in rage.

She moved toward the front of the class, waving her paper in my face, and screamed again, “Unacceptable!” After a heated exchange, she left the room and stood outside the door sobbing.

All this was over receiving a B on a completely low-stakes assignment.

What followed was even more startling. The following week, the student brought along a muscle-bound man to class. He watched me through the doorway window for the entire three hours of the class, with his arms folded across his chest.

And if this wasn’t enough, the young woman’s classmates avoided me on campus because, they said, they were afraid of getting caught in the crossfire should she decide to shoot me.

After that, every time she turned in a paper I cringed and prayed that it was good so that I wouldn’t have to give her anything less than an A.

Learning from this experience, I now give papers back only at the end of the class or just “forget” to bring them with me. I was lucky that the student didn’t have a gun in my classroom. Other professors have not been so lucky.

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So the question is, Will we soon see a new sort of grade inflation, with students earning a 4.0 GPA with their firepower rather than brainpower? And if so, what sort of future citizenry will we be building on our campuses?

http://www.newsweek.com/will-guns-campus-lead-grade-inflation-327047

[Ralph Wiggum]

Isn't there already massive grade inflation?  Jeez, when I've done hiring in recent years it seems every college grad has above a 3.5.  And usually dumb as a box of rocks.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Isn't there already massive grade inflation?  Jeez, when I've done hiring in recent years it seems every college grad has above a 3.5.  And usually dumb as a box of rocks.

Exactly.  They are so inflated now that it's impossible to further inflate them.  The only way to fail now is to simply not turn in the work, really and truly just not get it, or turn in something that pisses all over one of the instructor's pet social/political/pseudohistory rocks.

[USA4ME]

No reason to use guns for better grades when, as we learned here from another article just a few days ago, all you need to do is whine and cry like a spoiled brat who needs their hand held through life making the profs too scared to give you a bad grade and further hurt your self-esteem.

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[tanstaafl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027251852

I'd be more scared of this unarmed prog in my classroom than I would a TRAINED, over-21, gun carrying student holding a valid CCW.

Not me. While the perp is taking out all of the gene pool's shallow end unarmed occupants, a trained CCW'er can get a good aim on center mass for the first of a double tap.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Not me. While the perp is taking out all of the gene pool's shallow end unarmed occupants, a trained CCW'er can get a good aim on center mass for the first of a double tap.

Which is what I meant to say although it may not have come out that way.

[SVPete]

Star Member stone space (3,404 posts)

Will guns on campus lead to grade inflation?


Will Guns on Campus Lead to Grade Inflation?

By Jessica Smartt Gullion 4/30/15 at 11:48 AM

Well, this disproves the old saw that, "There's no such thing as a dumb question!"

Has all the gun-haters' scare-mongering failed so badly that gun-haters have to resort to -rated stupidity like this?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Exactly.  They are so inflated now that it's impossible to further inflate them.  The only way to fail now is to simply not turn in the work, really and truly just not get it, or turn in something that pisses all over one of the instructor's pet social/political/pseudohistory rocks.

Other than the helicopter parents, etc., another part of grade inflation has gotta be the money that a college education now costs.  Relatively to income.  My suspicion.

Went to a good private college, part scholarship & the rest my parents & I paid.  My GPA was below 3.  But I learned a hell of a lot, would not trade my education for anything.  Had some classes where the professor gave about 3 A's per semester.  You had to be that smart & good to excel.  The way college should be.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Well, this disproves the old saw that, "There's no such thing as a dumb question!"

Has all the gun-haters' scare-mongering failed so badly that gun-haters have to resort to -rated stupidity like this?

stone space is an anti-gun idiot who has declared guns to be a privilege, not a right.

If Outback Steakhouse offered a dish of blooming idiot instead of blooming onion, space's picture would be on the menu.

[98ZJUSMC]

Isn't there already massive grade inflation?  Jeez, when I've done hiring in recent years it seems every college grad has above a 3.5.  And usually dumb as a box of rocks.

Yeah, they've been doing that for awhile now.

[BlueStateSaint]

Well, this disproves the old saw that, "There's no such thing as a dumb question!"

Has all the gun-haters' scare-mongering failed so badly that gun-haters have to resort to -rated stupidity like this?

As Chris Berman has said in the past, "There are no stupid questions; just stupid people who ask questions."

[Ptarmigan]

Grade inflation is very rampant at college. I mean how far can they inflate it. Instead of 4.0, it will be 5.0. 

[FiddyBeowulf]

What followed was even more startling. The following week, the student brought along a muscle-bound man to class. He watched me through the doorway window for the entire three hours of the class, with his arms folded across his chest.

And if this wasn’t enough, the young woman’s classmates avoided me on campus because, they said, they were afraid of getting caught in the crossfire should she decide to shoot me.

After that, every time she turned in a paper I cringed and prayed that it was good so that I wouldn’t have to give her anything less than an A.

Two points:
1) Had the writer of the article been allowed to carry concealed she would not have felt so intimidated by Brawny McMuscles.
2) I do not understand why she would be worried about being shot by the young woman, I assume the campus at the time was a gun free zone.