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Offline dutch508

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WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« on: October 18, 2015, 09:54:59 AM »
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sabrina 1 (59,144 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251692861

Oops! The White House Just Called Hillary Out! Caught in a lie?

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During Tuesday’s Democratic primary debate, presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton spoke out against the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement that the Obama administration has put forward.

”I did say, when I was secretary of state, three years ago, that I hoped it would be the gold standard. It was just finally negotiated last week, and in looking at it, it didn’t meet my standards,” she said on the stage in Las Vegas. “My standards for more new, good jobs for Americans, for raising wages for Americans.”


Oops is right:

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Those comments were called into question the next day by the same White House Clinton used to serve. Apparently, they’re patently false. White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Wednesday that no one in the public has seen the agreement because it has not been yet made available for review.
At a White House news briefing, Earnest was asked point-blank by a reporter: “Is it possible that ’s actually looked at it? because I thought it hasn’t been made public?”

Of course that is a problem in itself, that it has NOT been seen by the public. But that's another topic.

Meantime, Hillary appears to be remembering doing something which, according to the White House, never happened.

Seems to be some tension between Hillary and the White House.

 :rofl:

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Rosa Luxemburg (25,590 posts)
111. Landing in Bosnia under fire again

Lying again

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MissDeeds (5,700 posts)
118. Apparently it's a pattern with her

She fails miserably at being trustworthy, yet some here think she's still qualified to be president.
Amazing
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TheBlackAdder (1,675 posts)
127. She either... a) Leaked a confidential viewing, betraying trust; 2) Lied about viewing it. This is really a toss up for me. On one hand, she could have taken a sneak peek at the executive overview, or the document. Which would have conflicted with the supposed lock-down of the information by the Obama administration, giving her a competitive edge over any other campaigner. On the other hand, she could have fabricated the story, on the fly, not foreseeing the ramifications.
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Either way, it shows some level of gaming the campaign and dishonesty.

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Rockyj (342 posts)
141. Hillary has turned into a woman that has sold her SOUL...and willing to say anything to be President for her corporate OWNERS that don't care anything about  US!

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SusanaMontana41 (2,595 posts)
21. Hillary's intentional mishandling of classified information speaks directly to secrecy in government. Those emails MATTER. I want to read those emails. I want to know what my government is doing when it thinks nobody's watching. And it WAS intentional.Hillary is a brilliant attorney. She knew exactly what she was doing. To paraphrase Edward Snowden: Had underlings done what Hillary did, not only would they lose her jobs, they almost certainly would be prosecuted. I am deeply disappointed with Bernie for saying what he did.

Deeply, deeply disappointed.

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PoliticAverse (13,534 posts)
15. She did lie when she claimed she said "I hoped it would be the gold standard", she actually said

that "This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements ..."

See: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/hillary-clinton-misquotes-herself-on-trans-pacific-partnersh#.ap6vj2NPWp

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senz (1,898 posts)
17. These transparent, unnecessary little lies. There's something wrong with her. It's unsettling.

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Star Member pnwmom (64,160 posts)
18. Everyone else is claiming to have read the leaked document.  [reference TTP] Why not Hillary?

Assange didn't put an embargo on it applying only to her, as far as I know.

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NorthCarolina (8,599 posts)
101. She is pretty sure you wipe a server with like a cloth or something, so yeah, she probably knows how to do the google too.

 :o             :rotf:

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CoffeeCat (20,133 posts)
28. Obama experienced the wrath of Clinton...

Last edited Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:17 AM - Edit history (1)

...and her dirty tricks and manipulation of the media. Obama felt the full brunt of the Clinton dynasty during his campaign.

My favorite was when she was asked if Obama was a Christian. She didn't say yes. She said she took him at his word that he was being honest. That came at a time when he was fighting the Muslim stereotypes/questions. On the eve of the Iowa caucuses, Bob Kerrey, one of Clinton's biggest supporters, while campaigning for Hillary, referred to Obama as, "Barack Hussein Obama." One last-ditch effort to help Hillary taint Obama as a Muslim terrorist.

My guess is that Obama sees Hillary playing the same nonsense on Sanders.

She's a blatant liar and will say anything to get elected. No one knows that better than Obama.

They're just calling her out on her lies about the TPP. She called it "the gold standard", then never fought against it or stood up to rally against it, like Elizabeth Edwards did. Then she comes out against it, days before it becomes law--when her weak criticism of it is meaningless.

She only came out against it to better position herself in the debate. She had to make sure that She neutralized any legitimate ammunition that could be used against her, and make her look worse than Bernie.

She lied. What's new
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Major Hogwash (16,103 posts)
38. Ha ha ha!!!! Hillary got caught telling a whopper!!! Imagine that!!!

What's next, is she going to run in the Boston marathon next year?

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catnhatnh (7,458 posts)
75. I'm tired of your shit.  Did she dodge sniper fire in Bosnia or is she a liar?

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98. Results of Jury Service

I'm tired of your shit
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80. so you are saying she has a copy the whitehouse does not know about?

Those comments were called into question the next day by the same White House Clinton used to serve.

Apparently, they’re patently false. White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Wednesday that no one in the public has seen the agreement because it has not been yet made available for review.

At a White House news briefing, Earnest was asked point-blank by a reporter: “Is it possible that ’s actually looked at it? because I thought it hasn’t been made public?”

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Fred Sanders (18,135 posts)
151. When Bengazhi died and destroyed the Committee to Destroy Clinton...what else is there left to sing?

Only I never expected so many folks at DU to join in the chorus!

Sure, Fred, sure.

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46. Oops, right wing sources spins the White House response

http://www.westernjournalism.com/oops-the-white-house-just-called-hillary-out-and-now-shes-caught-in-a-lie/

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I think one should not use right-wing sources to slam other Democrats.

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Scootaloo (20,611 posts)
128. Didn't you know? The white house is a right-wing source

 :lmao:

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sabrina 1 (59,144 posts)
69. WH says she hasn't seen the final one.

And there WERE leaks over the past two years which caused a majority of people to oppose it. Did she approve of what those leaks revealed? There are a lot of questions she needs to answer about this.

Cooper asked her how she responds to the charge that she flip flops on issues, like the TPP and the Keystone Pipeline right before the debates.

Her response response was the TPP. So she didn't oppose what caused a majority of the people and every Union in the country to oppose it?

But 'what is in the final draft'?? WH says no one has seen that yet.

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George II (9,611 posts)
109. Earnest didn't "call Hillary out" nor was she "caught in a lie".

Members of Congress have seen the agreement and at this late date they're not prohibited from showing it to people, particularly people of the status of the ex-Secretary of State, who worked on the agreement when she was in office.

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115. A dead broke war hero, dodging sniper fire, fighting job killing trade agreements, spreading

Democracy in Libya, Syria, Honduras, Iraq... AND regulating Wall Street while accepting their donations to her personal foundation as Sec of State.

You know, it's all for the little people.

She's superhuman, isn't she?

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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2015, 10:16:06 AM »
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Major Hogwash (16,103 posts)
38. Ha ha ha!!!! Hillary got caught telling a whopper!!! Imagine that!!!

What's next, is she going to run in the Boston marathon next year?

She's already been declared the winner of that race. DWS has determined it.
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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2015, 10:21:46 AM »
The acrimony on DU...it pleases me so  :-)
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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2015, 10:31:10 AM »
The butt-hurt in that thread makes me laugh!
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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2015, 10:52:38 AM »
Quote from: Maverick1987 on October 18, 2015, 10:21:46 AM
The acrimony on DU...it pleases me so  :-)

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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2015, 11:25:06 AM »
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TheBlackAdder (1,675 posts)
127. She either... a) Leaked a confidential viewing, betraying trust; 2) Lied about viewing it. This is really a toss up for me. ...

I haven't heard any reports of porcine aviators - confirmed or unconfirmed - so I'll go with #2, The CHILL lied. BHO's peeps aren't going to give The CHILL a sneak peek at the TPP agreement.

The CHILL had her (middle) finger in the Progressive Wind, and she sensed it was time to flip on the TPP. But she couldn't admit to flipping for that reason, so she "had to" lie. Thinking every MSM person would let that fly was another arrogant mistake.
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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2015, 02:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Maverick1987 on October 18, 2015, 10:21:46 AM
The acrimony on DU...it pleases me so  :-)

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Re: WHAT!??! Hillary lied to us???
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2015, 04:05:14 PM »
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141. Hillary has turned into a woman that has sold her SOUL...and willing to say anything to be President for her corporate OWNERS that don't care anything about  US!

What a sexist comment. Or maybe it's a transgender slam, too.  Either way, just saying that Hillary has sold her SOUL, would have been sufficient. :rant:
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