The Leftists continually try to demonize the right, the whites, the gun owners, and Christians following every mass shooting they care to politicize (not the killings in major DEM run cities thought) and fail every time because it always seems these killers are leftists... and mentally wack-a-doodle insane. Which ironically is the defense the left uses for every left-wing mass murderer blaming Reagan for closing down all the mental asylums in the 1980s...
backscatter712 (23,353 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027231777
OK, who else is sick of the demonization of the mentally ill following shootings?
I am, because the issue is personal for me.
I've suffered from depression, I have friends who suffer from mental illness, and I lost a nephew to suicide.
Every time there's a mass shooting, the NRA blood profiteers and the GOP bags of dicks have a few tactics to deflect discussion away from the easy availability of firearms in the U.S.
They have their front groups (starring Alex Jones) cook up batshit conspiracy theories about Obama, the New World Order, and an alleged upcoming gun crackdown, with things like Jade Helm, martial law, FEMA camps, and so on. The idea is to scare the shit out of the gullible, poison the well of any discussion of gun safety legislation, and drum up sales. And judging by the spikes in gun sales after shootings, it works.
But also, they always demonize the mentally ill. When people want to talk about legislative action to stop gun violence, the first thing they do is talk about the shooter. Why do you think that FOX "News" constantly drops the name of the shooter, over and over and over and over, when everyone with some sense keeps saying "Stop saying that scumbag's name! Stop giving him infamy!"? Because they want us to talk about how these shootings are done by "crazies", and how instead of discussing gun safety regulation, we need to talk about what society is going to do about the Crazies In Our Midst!
They do this because "If it bleeds, it leads", and they don't want to talk about a solution that would damage the profitability of a multi-billion dollar industry that feeds their politicians. Wouldn't want that. So, instead of having a sensible discussion of what research suggests is the best way to curb the gun violence death toll, we have our mainscream media. the National Riflemaker's Association, and the GOP Clown Car bags of dicks blaming mental illness, and in the process, increasing the stigma the mentally ill face, discouraging them from seeking help, and letting that problem fester.
Never mind that the research suggests that most mentally ill people are not violent, and most violent people aren't in serious distress from mental illness. The correlation is not there.
So, if you think the solution to gun violence is to feed a moral panic that has half the country running around like idiots, and making hell of the lives of the most vulnerable among us, kindly kiss my ass. Any questions?
Soooooooo... the solution is not to talk about the crazy ****ing leftists and Democratic voting gang-bangers in major DEM controlled cities but to outlaw guns by the law abiding God fearing Republican voting majority? Makes perfect sense.
pipoman (14,720 posts)
2. Every time this happens it is the same story...someone With untreated mental illness goes out and kills a bunch of people...should we pretend this isn't so? Should we disregard the correlation between mental illness and a school full of dead people?
Crunchy Frog (17,970 posts)
4. It's personal for me too, and I'm sick of it as well. Lifetime issues with depression and anxiety. No interest whatsoever in either guns or violence, but feel like I'm being stigmatized every time one of these incidents happens, and the focus immediately shifts to "what are we going to do about the mentally ill?"
gwheezie (1,770 posts)
7. I'm horrified by some suggestions
I've done psych nursing for 40 years, the idea of some database of the mentally ill sickens me. Yes there are some people with mental illness that are violent most violent people however are criminals, not mentally ill. Mental illness does not mean you have less rights than anyone else.
I'm all for universal background checks and include those with a history of violence but don't make this about mental illness.
Most people with a dx of chronic mental illness are not experiencing symptoms all the time. You can be bipolar for 10 years and be perfectly happy and have a break just because your meds stop working. You can have a single psychotic episode. You can be managing your illness quite well. You don't belong on a list.
NuclearDem (13,697 posts)
8. It wasn't a mentally ill person that committed that shooting.
It was a person with a gun.
Had that same person walked in with a knife, baseball bat, hammer, or tire iron, that death toll would've been much smaller, if one at all.
It's time to start placing responsibility for these incidents where they belong and stop making the purchase of intentionally destructive and deadly devices like these as easy as they are.
Let's see... let's play this game:
A black guy, a recent convert to Islam, who's mother is a radical activist and who's father (separated) is a British anti-gun fanatic, after buying a shit load of guns legally goes to a local college and murders 9 people after identifying the Christians and targeting them. He leaves a manifesto which is censored by the government. Leftists and activists hack his on-line accounts and wipe them, replacing them with a profile of a White Male Racist who's only love seemed to be GUNS and the Irish Revolutionary Army. The President of the USA within moments of the shooting is calling for more gun control and openly admits to politicizing the issue. The left attempts to demonize the Sheriff of the county and the Mayor of the city who call out the left's attempts and say gun control is not the answer.
We normal citizens will never know the truth of the matter because the leftist government from the President on down is doing everything they can to mold this into a story they want.
People in this country who are not leftists who hate this country find they trust a Russian leader more than their own President.
Yeah, it's not a gun issue. It's a political issue.
xfundy (4,896 posts)
17. Anyone with depressive disorder would hurt themselves first and would rarely direct their anger outward.
But, what a surprise, the Fox Noise crowd blames them instead of the gun and religion industries.
