Proglodytes discuss freeloaders

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

LVZ (811 posts)

Republican Climate Deniers - more "stuff happens" in South Carolina - seeks another federal bailout
   
 http://climatecrocks.com/2015/10/03/joaquin-climate-makes-a-minor-storm-major/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/26/republican-states-most-dependent-government_n_5035877.html

South Carolina is already the state that is dead last on return of federal taxpayer investment, i.e, another deadbeat red state filled with Republican whiners always complaining about federal taxes.

The state with the lowest return on taxpayer investment is South Carolina.
Its citizens pay $1 in taxes per capita for every $7.87 in federal funding received.

Anyone visiting the links will see that not one of the effects from the hurricane is unprecedented. A hurricane pushed on the weather pattern. It happens but the gullible assume it is the breaking of the Seventh Seal.

But notice this part again:

The state with the lowest return on taxpayer investment is South Carolina.
Its citizens pay $1 in taxes per capita for every $7.87 in federal funding received.

Wait a minute.

Is this Proglodyte implying that those who pay more into the tax pool have reason to take umbrage with those who pay less?

Here's another one:

atreides1 (11,456 posts)

26. I don't think they are Americans
 
At least not full time Americans, only when it's convenient, like during natural disasters!

Once the waters have subsided the venom will start to flow again and the anti-American sentiment that permeates the state will once again be prevalent...until the next flood, hurricane, or earth quake! Then they'll be "Americans" again!!!

I feel the same way about welfare, food stamps, public housing and birth control.

YabaDabaNoDinoNo (296 posts)

39. The federal Gov should not do any thing even DENY them Any Federal Funds for the little bit of rain

they got. They want to deny global warming and by law it is required to be denied in SC . SO they act like asshats treat them like the ass hats they are.

If they can't take care of themselves and they CAN'T, they can't even afford to pay their own bills, we who live in states with high taxes have to CARRY the load for the states that REFUSE to Take care of its citizens, which interestingly enough are ALL Conservative States they have to use the largess of the LIBERAL States to support themselves.

Enough is a enough, seeing that SC can't seem to manage it owns affairs then the Federal Government needs to take over the entire state and get them back on track.

Tough Love is the only way they, the residents of the state, will even learn.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, some people may die, BFD, they, the people, voted of the ass hats leading them. They need a life lesson too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027230575

[JohnnyReb]

Does those "tax dollars" we're getting include the Air Force, Navy, Army and Marine bases we have here?

....and a large part of those dollars go to the bought and paid for democrat voters here.

My garden is mush. My late corn is flat on the ground and so are my peas. The wind got bad for awhile. I've got a lot of limbs on the ground to pick up.

[franksolich]

My garden is mush. My late corn is flat on the ground and so are my peas. The wind got bad for awhile. I've got a lot of limbs on the ground to pick up.

Hey, how come you're still down there?

I thought for sure Obozo had personally flown Air Force One to your front yard to pick up you and the wife and convey you to safety.

That's what the primitives expected of George Bush during Katrina ten years ago, so it's only equitable to demand the same of Obozo.

Apparently he never came and got you?

[Maverick1987]

YabaDabaNoDinoNo (296 posts)

39. The federal Gov should not do any thing even DENY them Any Federal Funds for the little bit of rain

they got. They want to deny global warming and by law it is required to be denied in SC . SO they act like asshats treat them like the ass hats they are.

If they can't take care of themselves and they CAN'T, they can't even afford to pay their own bills, we who live in states with high taxes have to CARRY the load for the states that REFUSE to Take care of its citizens, which interestingly enough are ALL Conservative States they have to use the largess of the LIBERAL States to support themselves.

Enough is a enough, seeing that SC can't seem to manage it owns affairs then the Federal Government needs to take over the entire state and get them back on track.

Tough Love is the only way they, the residents of the state, will even learn.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, some people may die, BFD, they, the people, voted of the ass hats leading them. They need a life lesson too.

WOW!

[thundley4]

The DUmmies are just showing their typical racism since South Carolina has a minority woman, Nikki Haley as governor. They have a burning hatred for people of Indian descent.

[SVPete]

South Carolina is already the state that is dead last on return of federal taxpayer investment, i.e, another deadbeat red state filled with Republican whiners always complaining about federal taxes.

Does those "tax dollars" we're getting include the Air Force, Navy, Army and Marine bases we have here?

....and a large part of those dollars go to the bought and paid for democrat voters here.
...

Yeah, I was wondering how much of Federal $$ going to SC is for military installations, which by definition are part of national defense.

On the flip-side, I wonder how many of those federal $$ are going to those DU-Darlings,welfare (i.e. social programs) recipients.

[BannedFromDU]

     I am all for denying groups of people tax monies in excess of their contributions.

     But the state level seems arbitrary: why not the zip+4 level? This is one of the most directed ways to tell who is paying taxes, and who is sucking at the teat.

     All we need to do is compute the statistics, rank order them, and start at the top. Because DUmmies seem to be in love with the idea of denying funds to "freeloaders," I nominate them to go to the census blocks in the areas that will be affected. The message is simple: "We will no longer issue government benefits to anyone in this census area, because you all consume more than you produce."

     And when the DUmmies see that the people they cut off are overwhelmingly not white and overwhelmingly uneducated, the DUmmies who haven't been lynched by street mobs will realize what a stupid idea it is, and they'll shut the **** up about it.


     Randy, how about it? One Rolex for each day you survive, telling people in Chicago and Baltimore and Atlanta that you're cutting them off. Easy money for you.

[Maxiest]

YabaDabaNoDinoNo (296 posts)

I will neither confirm nor deny that this is my mole.

 

[tanstaafl]

If they can't take care of themselves and they CAN'T, they can't even afford to pay their own bills, we who live in states with high taxes have to CARRY the load for the states that REFUSE to Take care of its citizens, which interestingly enough are ALL Conservative States they have to use the largess of the LIBERAL States to support themselves.

You do know, ****wit, that that's FEDERAL TAX RATE you're talking about. It's the same for everyone in the US. Trust me, if you live in NY, NJ, CA, or some other (D)Umbass, High Tax state, There is very slim, almost no, chances any of that STATE TAX money will find its way to SC.

[obumazombie]

I thought the DUmmies, proglodytes, and primitives loved freeloaders because their messiah has made so many of them...

In their coverage of government and other economic reports, the business press routinely tells readers that the figures they are relaying are "seasonally adjusted."
That is, raw results are smoothed out to supposedly "remove normal, recurring variations" in data.

There's one notable exception:
The government's monthly employment report.

As has been their habit for as long as I have been following these things, various Associated Press reports in the past several days (examples here, here and here) and at yesterday's New York Times failed to tag yesterday's reported gain in payroll jobs of 142,000 as "seasonally adjusted."
There appears to be no reason for this other than to discourage curiosity among those who might otherwise be inclined to dig deeper.

Doing so sometimes reveals that the seasonally adjusted figures understate the job market's strength.
Other times, they appear to overstate it.

As seen below, especially in the private sector, the poor seasonally adjusted results of the past two months are nowhere near as bad as the underlying raw data:





As seen above, in comparison to the same month in previous years, April, May, June and July weren't too bad (not good enough in terms of getting the millions of people who are genuinely unemployed who are not included in the official figure of 5.1 percent employed, but at least mildly heading in the right direction).
July's overall job loss of 964,000 (in a month when many teachers, professors, and others in public education are between school years) was the lowest in at least the past decade, and could defensibly have converted to a seasonally adjusted result of roughly 300,000.

But the wheels started falling off in August, and it got even worse in September — in both cases worse than the seasonally adjusted figures indicate.


Total nonfarm job additions in August and September of 197,000 and 558,000 were both the lowest respective months since 2010.
While the seasonal conversion to 142,000 in September seems reasonable (at worst overstated by 25,000 or so), the August conversion to 136,000 significantly overstates the underlying poor result by at least 100,000.

How can raw job additions have declined by over 200,000 from last year (from 391K to 197K) while the seasonally adjusted result only dropped by 77,000?
Even if the seasonal adjustment was technically done correctly, it's not correctly informing us.

The situation is worse in the private sector.
August's 24,000 jobs added is the lowest August result since 2009
— when the economy was still losing jobs shortly after the recession's official end in June of that year
— by 130,000 jobs.

Its current seasonal conversion to 100,000 jobs is about 75,000 jobs higher than the underlying data can support.
(I should also note that when they were released last month, virtually everyone, including "experts" cited by AP, thought that August's original results would be revised upward this month because that has been the case in most previous years.
Oops: It turns out that August's original results were revised significantly downward as was July.)

September's private-sector result showing 525,000 not seasonally adjusted jobs lost is the worst performance of them all.
It's over 200,000 below September 2014, and the worst September since 2009.

The seasonally adjusted result, compared to the conversions seen from 2010 to 2013, could easily have been to zero or a barely positive figure.
Thus, even though the seasonally adjusted figures the press is reporting are being described as "meager" (AP) and "grim" (New York Times), they're really far worse.

At least readers here know that, even if the establishment press won't tell anyone else.

full article...


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2015/10/04/raw-jobs-numbers-press-wont-report-paint-even-uglier-picture