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Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« on: October 01, 2015, 11:56:57 PM »
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Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.

For all the gun nuts, they can have their shot guns and 22's, etc.

This does not violate the 2nd Amendment.

When the US Constitution and Amendments were written, only the single shot rifle and pistol were available.

We have established laws for free speech - we can establish laws for 'things' that, when 'used as directed' KILLS people.

Its ****ing time. Period...

Brilliant.

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2. It will happen if enough people advocate for it...Once Senator Sanders is President, these types of changes will happen.

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16. I know I will be pounding my head into a wall, but using your logic, the 1st Amendment only applies to words written on paper with a quill pen, printed using a primitive printing press, or speaking.

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19. It would be a novel way to shut down Fox News.

Just state that Freedom of the Press only applies if you actually publish with a printing press. After all, it's called "freedom of the press".

The left is always looking for a way to destroy their opponents.

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20. 'Freedom of Speech' does not kill people if used as directed.

Guns do.

And let revisit the 2nd Amendment...
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Let's enforce the entire amendment....

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24. Silly statement (no offense)...The only purpose of 'arms' is to kill...

(target shooting is practice for killing)...

 :thatsright:

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38. You don't need a handgun or a high cap magazine to protect your family...

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43. Do you belong to a militia?

Whats a preliminary requirement according to the language of the 2nd Amendment...

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46. Sorry, but that argument has been settled by Heller v DC.

The SCOTUS ruled that the 2a confers a right to possess firearms not connected to militia service.

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48. By the right-wing conservative Supreme Court.

Rulings can be overturned... (not easy, but it can be done).

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32. SCOTUS has already ruled that possession of handguns are a constitutional right, so, yeah,

it would violate the 2A.

And the American public is dead set against a handgun ban by a margin of 75% to 25%.

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37. In the DU Gun Proection Society's view, anyway.

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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 12:51:15 AM »
If only one of those students had a concealed carry handgun.

Apparently an air force vet was on campus and a concealed carry holder, but the administration would not let him leave the building.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 02:32:58 AM »
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20. 'Freedom of Speech' does not kill people if used as directed.

Guns do.

You're a phucking idiot...

And let revisit the 2nd Amendment...
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Let's enforce the entire amendment....


Oh, by all means. THE WHOLE THING. 




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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 04:46:12 AM »
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48. By the right-wing conservative Supreme Court.

Rulings can be overturned... (not easy, but it can be done).

That includes abortion, right?
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 07:34:56 AM »
Somebody compare the posters on this thread who advocate for banning guns over a few small, isolated incidents, representing .00000000001% of gun owners in this country, with those on the muzzie thread saying you couldn't justify stereotyping the muzzies, over the rapist bastards in Germany over a couple of bad apples.

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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2015, 09:01:29 AM »
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38. You don't need a handgun or a high cap magazine to protect your family...
You can piss and puke on yourself to try and deter an attack on your family, let me decide how best to defend mine.  :bird:
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2015, 09:42:05 AM »
You could just as easily say that at the time it was written, a private individual could own any weapon in the inventory of the best-equipped armies and navies of the world at the time, musket, rifle, pistol, cannon, carronade, howitzer, mortar, or grenade.

At this point it remains totally unclear what role the high-capacity thing played, or even the handguns, all we know is the dude had three handguns and a longarm, types unspecified.  Nor do we know if he got them at yard sales, swiped them from  family or friends, borrowed them, or even bought them with a full background check.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2015, 10:23:54 AM »
Every one should be given an automatic weapon when they enter first grade. Survival of the fittest and all.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2015, 02:30:08 PM »
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When the US Constitution and Amendments were written, only the single shot rifle and pistol were available.

I guess the smartest people in the world never heard of Leonardo DaVinci, or realize he predated the constitution...





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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2015, 03:13:28 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on October 02, 2015, 02:30:08 PM
I guess the smartest people in the world never heard of Leonardo DaVinci, or realize he predated the constitution...




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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2015, 03:27:15 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on October 02, 2015, 12:51:15 AM
If only one of those students had a concealed carry handgun.

Apparently an air force vet was on campus and a concealed carry holder, but the administration would not let him leave the building.

I keep thinking if the Army vet who put himself between his classmates and the gunman was armed there wouldn't have been a mass murder.

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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2015, 11:59:43 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on October 02, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
You could just as easily say that at the time it was written, a private individual could own any weapon in the inventory of the best-equipped armies and navies of the world at the time, musket, rifle, pistol, cannon, carronade, howitzer, mortar, or grenade.

At the time there was ten times more privately owned cannons on our side than government owned cannons. But the DUchebags will never hold Hitler responsible for bombing Pearl Harbor.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2015, 12:23:05 PM »
Quote from: jukin on October 03, 2015, 11:59:43 AM
At the time there was ten times more privately owned cannons on our side than government owned cannons. But the DUchebags will never hold Hitler responsible for bombing Pearl Harbor.

Bluto? Is that you?
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2015, 12:37:49 PM »
Well all I can say is that it is unpossible that this shooting even occurred.  This was a gun-free zone.  Guns were not allowed!!!
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2015, 12:41:01 PM »
Quote from: Karin on October 03, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
Well all I can say is that it is unpossible that this shooting even occurred.  This was a gun-free zone.  Guns were not allowed!!!

C'mon man. You misunderstand. The no gun zone only applies to students, he wasn't a student, therefore, the ban didn't apply to him.
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2015, 03:33:40 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on October 03, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2015, 05:37:37 PM »
DUmmies need to realize the 2nd Amendment doesn't have a damned thing to do with hunting.  How many rounds my 9mm holds is none of anybody's business except me, and whatever retard thinks it's a good idea to break into my house, because whatever my magazine holds is what I intend to use.  Times 3 if necessary.   :naughty:
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Re: Its simple: handguns and high capacity magazines must be prohibited.
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2015, 07:50:34 AM »
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When the US Constitution and Amendments were written, only the single shot rifle and pistol were available.

The 2nd Amendment recognized the right to own the best technology of the day. :loser: Thanks for pointing out that fact! :loser:

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24. Silly statement (no offense)...The only purpose of 'arms' is to kill...

(target shooting is practice for killing)...

Yet, strangely according to this "reasoning", the vast majority of guns and gun owners in the US never even attempt to kill a human being. TP's (how apt!) hysterical alarmism is not borne out by reality (anybody surprised?).

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38. You don't need a handgun or a high cap magazine to protect your family...

Really? How many times have you done it? What experience do you have that proved this assertion? Having a 75% full magazine after a successful self-defense is a lot better than running out and getting killed as a consequence. Even better is being prepared for something that seldom happens; infrequence is not a valid pretext for banning the means of self-defense, either.

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43. Do you belong to a militia?

Whats a preliminary requirement according to the language of the 2nd Amendment...[/quote]

 :thatsright: So, by TP's "reasoning" women had no right to own fire arms until they were allowed in the military? :thatsright: If analyzed by the sentence diagramming skills TP should have learned by the 8th Grade, it's clear that the purpose the 2nd Amendment cited for recognizing the right to own fire arms was so that most members of a militia would show up for muster already skilled in the use of fire arms (and, in the early days of the US, armed with their own rifle).
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