http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027226155Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:00 AM
Star Member ZM90 (481 posts)
I am a socially awkward young asperger's man. Should I forfiet my right to bear arms?
Seriously because that is what some sound like they are saying. For clarification I do not own a gun nor do I have that much interest in owning one. I just think this demonization of those of of us who are socially weird or awkward isn't right. I am one of the sweetest most understanding people you'll probably have the pleasure of meeting despite the fact that I am generally quiet if I do not know you too well. That doesn't mean I am plotting anything or that I am going to go shoot up innocent people at a school or mall, I am not a psychopath I do have emotions even if I don't express them too outwardly due to being a introvert.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:05 AM
CBGLuthier (11,592 posts)
1. Everyone should forfeit their right to bear arms. it is an antiquated concept that is destroying
America.
Speaking as a socially awkward not so young aspergers man myself.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:09 AM
NaturalHigh (11,301 posts)
3. I knew that was coming from someone.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:11 AM
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (11,389 posts)
6. Well, neither did the slaveowners.
We had to fight a war to take away their right to own slaves.
We might end up fighting a war to take away the right to own guns.
Bring it, motherf*cker.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:17 AM
Nuclear Unicorn (17,137 posts)
10. Slave owners had no right to own slaves and they only did so by abrogating the rights of others.
Oops.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:40 AM
Chan790 (18,130 posts)
14. They believe they did.
A lot of us believe that private gun-ownership isn't an actual conferred right (unless you're a member of the state militia.1) and is only effected by abrogating the rights of the public to be free from the constant threat of gun violence.
1: I'd be game for that--they can own guns but they have to be serving in the National Guard. If the NG won't take them...then no guns.
Chan790, unemployed since August 17, 2011, chimes in with his FEEEEEEELLLLSSSSSSSS. **** you, Chan.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:43 AM
Star Member OneGrassRoot (20,622 posts)
16. I agree.
I don't know if it's human nature or simply our society, but the tendency to want everything to be black or white is not only destructive, it leads to little meaningful progress.
I've heard variations of this my whole life:
Starting back in the 70's: "Just bomb the whole Middle East and make it a parking lot." Dealing with the complexities (and our responsibility as a nation) is too much for most people. Just kill everyone creating a problem and be done with it.
People have never stopped saying that about urban areas where there is horrific drug/gang/gun violence. "Just let them all kill one another and stay out of it." Heaven forbid we deal with the myriad, complex factors resulting in the ongoing violence.
Same messaging now concerning all Mexicans, thanks to Trump.
Same messaging about all people of Middle Eastern descent.
Just "get rid of all of them."
But now there is an obvious trend of young white men and mass shootings. Surely we aren't going to see messaging of, "Just get rid of all of them. Put them all in psyche wards until they're 25" or something ridiculous like that. This hits way too close to home for too many white people.
It's complicated. I feel we all have "mental illness" to varying degrees; or maybe it's more accurate to say our society is not well. At all.
Yes, I'm for gun control. Absolutely. I'm troubled by the influence of the NRA and gun manufacturers on our society as I am by the pharmaceutical industry and other huge lobbies who only care about $$$$$$.
Yet I feel it's important to look at the big picture here and realize it's complex. We have to approach things in a multi-pronged fashion, treating the underlying disease and its various symptoms that are manifesting -- both chronically and acutely.
We need to triage, if you will.
Most importantly, we need to establish our values as a society before we can triage and set priorities.
In my very strong opinion, we need a full on cultural transformation.
This is the cultural transformation you DUmbf*cks have been yearning for. Welcome to no true right, no true wrong, everyone is a law unto themselves. Liberal values.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:09 AM
ryan_cats (1,368 posts)
4. Why do people
Why do people who claim they have past lives always claim to be Napoleon and not some anonymous peasant who died from the black plague?
Where the hell did that come from? You must have been reading too much of the grasswipe's family tree:
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:13 AM
ileus (12,760 posts)
7. Some here believe you're mentally ill for even wanting a firearm.
I've seen it posted several times over the years.
With the low post count, most will also consider you a troll so don't look for many responses that take you seriously.
No one wants to demonize folks, that's why everyone must be disarmed instead of picking who can have the right to defend themselves. It's the only way to be progressive on the issue.
