USMC seeks to bar women from combat role. DU: SEXIST &#*^&@%$%#&@*&^@^!!!!

[dutch508]

This is in reference to an earlier post about the USMC conducting a test which concluded a majority of women can not perform as well in combat as men. This is after the White House told the services to either give proof why women shouldn't be in combat units or let them in by Jan. 2016.

Here's a typical leftist response:

jtuck004 (12,908 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141210280

12. I am living in a racist county run by misogynists, in which women get paid less, disrespected more, and despite being as capable as men in virtually any arena, are held back because of bigotry, misogyny, racism.

Our published journals are now filled with crap research.The odds that the study is anything even close to a fair analysis is remote, at best. Funny how it underscored exactly what they wanted. They very likely purchased the result they wanted.

You will note that every single attempt to bring women in to the police or military has been met by "evidence" that they couldn't do the job.This is no difference.

The results are exactly what I expect from dishonorable people, and I haven't seen anything that leads me to think this is anything else.

You can think what you want. I won't waste my time.

It doesn't matter what the results say. Its about how I feel! [/DU]

TwilightGardener (45,254 posts)
11. My hunch, though, is that Sec. Mabus thinks that the Marine study was launched with the express intent of coming up with a "scientific" way to get an exemption from the new women-in-combat requirement. That needs to be hashed out and settled, but it should have been done behind closed doors and not released publicly until decisions were made.

mwrguy (2,049 posts)
3. Fine. Disband the Marine Corps

Give their job to the Army.

Oh, I am sure O'Barry McMuslim would love disbanding the USMC.

bluestateguy (42,024 posts)
13. They are welcome to ASK for whatever they wish

But we have civilian control of the military in this country, and when the decision is made, I expect the Marines to snap a crisp salute, say "sir, yes sir" and dutifully carry out the order without any complaining.

DU always says that when a [D] is CiC. Its a whole different story when W was in the chair.

Star Member uppityperson (97,813 posts)
15. If you can do the job, gender shouldn't matter.

the reverse is true. if they can't do the job then gender shouldn't matter.

[obumazombie]

Star Member uppityperson (97,813 posts)
15. If you can do the job, gender shouldn't matter.

A blanket statement about all of the genders.
Another lib who reacts without thinking.
Sometimes their agenda shines through their rhetoric.

[RayRaytheSBS]

The DUches don't realize  that the women who participated in the study feel like they were thrown under the bus by Mabus. They felt like it was a good, accurate study. And for anyone who has never done the job to criticize the experts is ridiculous. 

What do you think of that DUches?

[SVPete]

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me this guy got it right (whether (s)he intended to or understood what (s)he said are other questions).

Star Member uppityperson (97,813 posts)
15. If you can do the job, gender shouldn't matter.

The Marines test pitted a mixed-sex unit against an all male unit, and found that the mixed unit performed less well. IOW, the women in that unit could not "do the job".

I'm a life-long civilian, so take my opinion that follows with a grain or block of salt, as appropriate. Modern combat takes fighters up to and beyond human physical and mental endurance. That's reality, love it or hate it. For any nation to throw less than their very best into the maw of that monster is to invite defeat and oppression or enslavement; to do so knowingly is reprehensible.

[RayRaytheSBS]

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me this guy got it right (whether (s)he intended to or understood what (s)he said are other questions).

The Marines test pitted a mixed-sex unit against an all male unit, and found that the mixed unit performed less well. IOW, the women in that unit could not "do the job".

I'm a life-long civilian, so take my opinion that follows with a grain or block of salt, as appropriate. Modern combat takes fighters up to and beyond human physical and mental endurance. That's reality, love it or hate it. For any nation to throw less than their very best into the maw of that monster is to invite defeat and oppression or enslavement; to do so knowingly is reprehensible.

Hi5, you summed it up perfectly.  It's too bad our civilian leadership  is more concerned about 'equality' in a place where you want exceptionalism. from what thebstudy said, the the top 2% of females matched up with the 2nd tier of men. What combat benefits does that give us? The honest answer is NONE.

[miskie]

I haven't bothered to read the USMC thing but I can say this.

When it comes to combat, it isn't a matter of gender, its a matter of biology & evolution. Here is one, indisputable fact.

* when one compares a male and a female pound for pound, one learns that the female's heart is smaller.

Its related to evolution and goes back to humanity's 'hunter/gatherer' days. And when it comes to physical stress, there are consequences. If one takes a male & female of identical height, weight and strength, and push them both to the edge of the male's endurance limits, bad things will happen to the female. Up to the point of stroke, heart attack and death. A female's heart is simply not capable of moving as much blood as a male's - which results in oxygen deprivation much sooner for a woman than a man.

Ever wonder why men and women complete separately during marathons ? Even though they start running at the same time ? And even though they start running at the same time, the 1st place woman is always behind the 1st place man ?

Smaller. Heart. (Pittian dots for emphasis)

Here are the Boston Marathon results in easy to read graph form. Women were 'unofficial' participants until 1960, so data before then is spotty at best. The chart contains record breaking runs only, but the point remains.

Its also why I believe men who have transitioned to women should not be allowed to compete in women's divisions of sporting events. The transgender will have an unfair advantage.

So yeah, its not sexist - its biology. If you DUmpmonkeys don't like it, blame evolution.

[JohnnyReb]

Look on the Brightside....once the DUmmies get all the equality in the military they want, we can put all the queers, lesbians, transgenders and other social misfit trash in the front line for the enemy to kill.

Unfortunately that means we, the civilian citizens, will have to do the fighting on our home ground.

[thundley4]

TwilightGardener (45,254 posts)
11. My hunch, though, is that Sec. Mabus thinks that the Marine study was launched with the express intent of coming up with a "scientific" way to get an exemption from the new women-in-combat requirement.

Global warming studies are done the same way and condoned by the left.  The climatologists start with the presumption that man is causing global warming and then they try and prove it while ignoring counter information.

[freedumb2003b]

Hi5, you summed it up perfectly.  It's too bad our civilian leadership  is more concerned about 'equality' in a place where you want exceptionalism. from what thebstudy said, the the top 2% of females matched up with the 2nd tier of men. What combat benefits does that give us? The honest answer is NONE.

2 words: Ladies' Golf Tees (the in the ground kind, not the wet kind)

[freedumb2003b]

Its also why I believe men who have transitioned to women should not be allowed to compete in women's divisions of sporting events. The transgender will have an unfair advantage.

Hey. if lefties want equality, they shall have it.  In spades.

Once guys realize they have only to DECLARE themselves female to enter womyn's sports, that will be it for people born female.

BTW -- I saw a YT video making a COMPELLING argument (with a LOT of data points) that the Williams sisters are both male (as is the 1st wookie).

Google it.