DiehardLiberal (173 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027120994
Arggghhh!!! Just off phone with RW sister and my head is exploding!
How do you deal with family members who are so blind to reason??
We are adopted so have very different genetic makeup but she is adamantly conservative even though she works as an admin asst for the State and her husband has been unemployed for the past year or so (admits her beloved capitalism isn't working well for her). She likes to quote that 50% of people are unemployed (in her house for sure!) and living off the system.
Tonight she said that they would like to leave their area and move but hate to give up the good health insurance she has (she did survive cancer this year). However, she wouldn't want to be on "Obamacare". She hates how it was crammed down "our" throats... How do you try to reason with someone like this??
FYI I was also diagnosed with cancer 2 years ago and had to wait for Medicare to get treatment. Had the Affordable Care Act been in place I could have been diagnosed earlier. Had given up my private insurance a few years earlier as a self-employed individual as the premiums were $400 a month for a $10,0000 deductible! How I wish "Obamacare" had been an option!!
Anyone have any advice?? I am livid with her and her kind. Sorry to vent but I am genuinely seeking words of wisdom.
Thanks!
This sucks, obvious mole dude... dudette? ****... who knows...
you GAVE UP your health care to save money and it bit you in the ass.
NRaleighLiberal (38,484 posts)
2. you can't. Her belief system is cemented into place. Teflon reflectors. Just talk about other stuff or if she starts, say you have something to do.
My brother is the same way, as are some neighbors. It is just a few tiny examples of the loads of folks who vote against their own interests, who are - brainwashed? willfully ignorant? afraid? need to be led (vulnerable to authoritarian) - I can't understand it.
Every liberal I know of can not wait to start spouting leftist shit at the drop of a hat. Fortunately my sister doesn't talk to me any more.
gratuitous (51,451 posts)
5. Perhaps a little history lesson?
It would appear that your sister has forgotten some of the more odious features of health insurance before the Affordable Care Act. Does she really want to bring back denials of coverage for "pre-existing conditions"? There were also lifetime caps on coverage, so if you had a really expensive condition (like, oh, cancer), you could reach the limit of your coverage in a big hurry just on pharmaceuticals alone.
Yeah, it would be nice not to have Obamacare "crammed down our throats," but it wasn't like insurance companies were going to do anything about the dysfunctional health care system. High-end physicians and clinics were doing all right and weren't too interesting in changing things. Unfortunately, people were dying or running up huge bills under the old system, even while insurance companies and some providers were doing very well.
To tell the God's honest truth, I'm not completely happy with Obamacare (as you call it) either. It would have been a lot better to cut the insurance companies out altogether. But the present system is a damn (you don't have to swear, but it might not hurt) sight better than what it replaced.
this is why liberals must never be allowed to rewrite the history books.
Control-Z (10,204 posts)
6. My sister has become almost as bad.
She believes that voter ID is a must because of all the fraud by individuals in her state. NC. If she even considered doing the math she would understand how silly she sounds.
I don't even bring up politics with her any longer. Anything but.
Yes. it is just too hard to get everyone who should have one an ID.
