kentuck (74,461 posts)
'Black Lives Matter' Activists Disrupt Presidential Forum at Netroots Event
Could someone explain what this was all about???
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AngryAmish (22,820 posts)
1. It was about the fact that white supremecy in the US sucks
When a person can be vilified for nothing more than their skin color they hold no status of supremacy.
gollygee (18,105 posts)
20. White supremacy is not about individual people
The whole country is based on white supremacy. It isn't just Republicans.
^ gollygee is HAMMERING the "all white people suck" button in every thread
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (9,467 posts)
2. BLM protestors felt they could leverage their protest better by using a venue in which multiple
potential presidential candidates were present than a random street corner.
They are right, too. They're getting a lot of coverage.
There are multiple threads on it with lots of comments, mostly from pissed off Sanders or O'Malley supporters who feel they were 'ambushed', and that Hillary will win electorally from this. But further statements from various BLM folks seems to indicate that they're planning to deal with all potential candidates equally. That they expect and require candidates to come up with concrete plans to help address their needs if they want to win their votes.
Which is what we ALL want. For candidates to listen to us, and take us seriously, and to actually DO something for us in return for our votes.
If they succeed, I'd actually hope it stiffens the spines of more people on the left to tell candidates that they HAVE to work for us, to do OUR will, or they won't get our votes.
In other words: Y'all don't have a ****ing clue what you want.
BeyondGeography (25,655 posts)
10. O'Malley was embarrassed
"O'Malley Apologizes for Saying All Lives Matter," is the headline today. Great day for Marty!
I think the tactics and, particularly, the target, are off base. O'Malley is polling at 2% nationally, and the first big headline he gets is the wrong answer to the latest PC game of gotcha.
It was a great day for Hillary though. So BLM stepped all over two challengers, left the frontrunner alone and gave her a heads-up to be ready for them next time (which she most assuredly will).
What's the plan here again?
HereSince1628 (32,099 posts)
14. They came to a party that speaks of championing people and making political revolution.
In an ideal world, their paths having met at a significant political intersection the champions would embrace the "disruptors" seeing them as supporters of shared cause and add making Black Lives Matter to the agenda of the revolution.
I don't see the 'disruption' as an inherently damaging conflict.
It's a tremendous chance for two columns to form into the same march.
But it will take people who really understand what championing and political revolution means.
We need a racially exclusive platform for 2016!
davidn3600 (4,178 posts)
16. It doesn't matter because they know they already have our vote
And ultimately, the Democrats know blacks are not suddenly going to start voting for Donald Trump. We don't have very many choices in this country as voters. We either vote for the Democrat or we vote for the clowns. So does it really matter what Hillary or Bernie or Martin say? No. It doesn't. Because they know damn well they already have our vote locked up.
And once anyone who is committed to change gets elected, they get to Washington and hit a brick wall. There are forces in place that prevent any real meaningful change. The goal of Washington is to retain economic and political stability. In their minds, the status quo is perfectly acceptable. Washington is not controlled by Main street. It hasn't been for a very long time. It's controlled by corporations and the 1%. They are ones who are making massive donations as we speak to both parties to ensure their interests in this government are protected.
It's hard to lose when you own every horse on the track.
Or you could be your own independent person.
Just saying.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (9,467 posts)
18. If you plan on giving away your vote no matter what, then sure, they've already got your vote.
That's the whole problem. People who simply give away their vote without demanding anything in return.
BLM is demanding something. And it's something worth demanding. The right to life and liberty, without that state murdering and brutalizing and locking them up. I don't think they're so naive as to assume that whoever they back will wave a magic wand and make it so. But they demand that the candidates actually TRY. And that's something we all should be demanding, all the time. That we're not just voting someone in so they can make friends with republicans and get rich while living high on the hog. We vote for them because we expect them to TRY to make our lives better, and if they don't bother to try, we've got no reason to vote for them.
You idiots want a hyper-powerful central state.
This is how that state is manifested.
You built this, not us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026988018
