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Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:29 PM
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Atlantic: "The Mystery of Columba Bush" (Why Jeb's wife is a fraud - and he wants it that way)

From: http://www.unz.com/isteve/atlantic-the-mystery-of-columba-bush/#comment-1004387

Atlantic: The Mystery of Columba Bush...
Steve Sailer
• May 19, 2015
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By Hanna Rosin

… Who she is is a harder question, due in part to her reluctance to develop a public persona or talk to the press. (She wouldn’t talk to me, even with campaign season heating up, although Jeb and I corresponded.) Bush loyalists bristle at the idea that Columba would have trouble fitting into the role of first lady in the White House. One scolded me that the press was just being “stupid” and “lazy” by saying that she hates public life and failing to recognize all the causes she has taken up over the past 15 or so years.

… But as a modern first lady, she’ll be expected to come out from behind the scenes. And whether she likes it or not, what she does and how she feels will affect her husband as a person and as a candidate—and that interplay will be endlessly dissected....


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But the most likely explanation for why Columba Bush has such a subterranean profile in the English-speaking world, one that Rosin never seems to stumble upon, is because she’s never learned to speak English well. She has plenty of personality in videos of her speaking Spanish.

Maria Montoya entrevista Columba Bush.mov (on you tube) 2:35 (two and a half minutes) (in Spanish, Columba gives house tour)

In this video, for instance, she’s doing fine conducting a First Lady of Florida-style interview in Spanish.

Her problems aren’t idiosyncratic personal shyness, they’re national.

She doesn’t speak English well, so Jeb speaks Spanish at home....
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Response to anobserver2 (Original post)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:31 PM
Star Member anobserver2 (498 posts)
3. Yet - she is a US Naturalized Citizen, required to know how to speak, read and write in English...

Here is my comment to the abovet:

Uh, isn’t a legal requirement of the US Government for becoming a Naturalized Citizen the ability to read, speak and write in English?

Columba Bush is reportedly a US Naturalized Citizen as of 1987 or 1988. But, it seems to me, she actually fails to meet the English language requirement.

And, it would not surprise me if she also never took the required written civics test, never publicly attended a required naturalization ceremony, and, never had a Green Card (which is required for Naturalization).


She is a Naturalized Citizen all right -- but only by: Bush Fraud and no other means, in my opinion.

Here are the requirements for Naturalization of Spouses of US Citizens:
http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/naturalization-spouses-us-citizens]
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Response to anobserver2 (Reply #3)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:33 PM
Star Member anobserver2 (498 posts)
5. Does she exercise any rights or privileges requiring English?

In addition --

I think Columba Bush may have also: never voted (because she can’t read the ballot), never had a drivers license (because she can’t read or pass the written test), and never applied for a US Passport herself (because she can’t read the application).


I think she was detained in Atlanta’s Hatfield Airport in 1999 because: she was alone and could not read the US Custom signs or instructions, and she could not understand in English what they were demanding of her. (To declare her purchases, which she did not, and was then fined.)
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Response to anobserver2 (Reply #3)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:07 PM
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the requirements to become a US citizen, as far as English is concerned, is enough to get along... not for a PhD thesis. I should know, I am one.

Oh and required civics classes? Nope, they are quite optional thank you very much. As long as you pass the citizenship exam in front of the administering officer you are fine.

I am also quite sure she attended the ceremony, though you do not need to do that. Any judge can administer the oath, and it can be done in private in certain circumstances.


This is quite the wrong tree to bark up. And I am glad Bush speaks Spanish at home. More Americans should try to be multi-linguist. Again, this is one of those that you will have a hard time getting me behind...

Now if you want to speak of gasp... policy though
Nadin comes to Columba's defense.  Nadin, who can speak enough English to get along--I am being charitable since she is saying something I agree with here.
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Response to anobserver2 (Original post)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:32 PM
niyad (38,198 posts)
4. after 40 years of marriage, she still does not speak english? (on the other hand, what is

it that the bushies actually speak, anyway???)
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Response to niyad (Reply #4)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:50 PM
Gloria (16,986 posts)
22. It is weird that she hasn't picked up English after 40 years

Just sort of odd, to me
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Response to anobserver2 (Original post)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:41 PM
Star Member anobserver2 (498 posts)
12. So many things I have noticed over the years about this issue

So many things I have noticed over the years about this issue... none of it made sense until:

I read the requirements for a US Naturalized citizen -- and those requirements (linked in my previous post)
do require: English. You must be able to speak English, read English and write English.


I think she gets by on some English. In a situation requiring a speech in English, I think they remote it to her in her ear or something

But, I think she does NOT at all read English or write English.

I think also it is because, again: Jeb Bush does not want a wife who has a command of the English language. He could have tutored her. When he was governor he tutored a student once per week he claimed. But he does not his wife to be able to speak or read or write English very well.

This was the "family" consideration he had prior to announcing his run: Can I really pull this off? Get my fraudulently Naturalized Wife into the White House? With no one knowing?

I think his father convinced him long ago, and he agreed: Yep, pop, we did everything else by fraud and got away with it, so why not this, too?
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Response to anobserver2 (Original post)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:47 PM
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16. Big question: Is she really naturalized?

In light of the requirements for naturalization concerning command of English, I don't think she is validly a nationalized citizen.
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Response to anobserver2 (Original post)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:48 PM
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19. Columba is another reason I don't think Jeb should be prez.

NOT because she is from Mexico, but because she apparently hates being in the public eye, and doesn't feel comfortable speaking
English.


Right or wrong, the President's family DOES MATTER, and always has. she' sought out for her opinions on diff. things, is hostess for State dinners, and as far back as I can remember, each "First Lady" has adopted a cause that she supports and travels to different places to promote that cause.

With his wife wanting to remain in the background and him trying to make people forget his last name, I don't think he stands that great of a chance of being the Pub candidate in the General Election.

I HOPE this isn't just wishful thinking on my part.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #40)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:06 PM
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58. She can never be elected to high office, that's true

but First Ladies are unelected, have no power, and are unpaid. Likely she would be another Laura Bush and avoid the spotlight as much as possible, something I did appreciate about Laura Bush, along with her taste in literature. Her taste in men, not so much. Same for Columba's taste in men.

This is a very nice tour of the Governor's Mansion in Florida. She does come across as relaxed and charming in Spanish.

I agree that she's probably very self conscious about her accented and likely schoolroom English.

And yes, she did try to chisel her way out of paying duties on her shopping spree overseas, even when she could easily have paid it. Shame on her for that.

However, it's no disqualifier to be First Lady.
Warpy is right.  Columba is probably dreading all the leftists making fun of her accent, a buffoonish caricature on Saturday Night Live, and on and on. 

I agree with Warpy and Nadin--somebody slap me please.

Welcome to democrat underground Jim Crow AmeriKKKa, where English is the only acceptable language if you are a Republican.

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Re: Primitives disenfranchise Columba Bush with Jim Crow literacy test
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2015, 09:04:31 PM »
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the requirements to become a US citizen, as far as English is concerned, is enough to get along... not for a PhD thesis. I should know, I am one.

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Re: Primitives disenfranchise Columba Bush with Jim Crow literacy test
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2015, 10:18:12 PM »
the requirements to become a US citizen, as far as English is concerned, is enough to get along... not for a PhD thesis. I should know, I am one.

Oh.  My.  God.

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So what this idiot of a DUche is saying based of his sentence structure is that he is a PHD thesis? Hey welcome to DU, you'll fit right in here. We've got a woman who thinks she's a Male Panther, so someone believing they're a stack of paper isn't a stretch! (/DUmode off)

Wow, the blatant 'me, me, me' of this post is definitely a trademark of the DUches. If they can't see the disconnect between demanding this woman speak English, but accepting more and more people into this country who DON'T care to learn our culture, our language and send all their money back to mexico.... Words fail me.

 
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Re: Primitives disenfranchise Columba Bush with Jim Crow literacy test
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2015, 10:21:05 PM »
I wonder how many of those moronic xenophobes have worked with some one whose first language is a language other than English. There is a huge canyon between being able to understand/speak a language and having the confidence to do so publicly! And as Delmar pointed out, unlike a similarly situated D, her every accent, every mispronounced word, every Malaprop will be mocked in the entertainment and "news" media.

And answering the question that would naturally occur to any DU-member who might chance to see this post, my Grandmother's first two languages were German and Russian, English being her third; her husband, as I've been given to understand, spoke two dialects of German as well as Russian (and then English). Working in Silicon Valley, I've worked with many whose first language is a language other than English, especially Mandarin, Cantonese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, and Spanish. And many of those co-workers, over the past several decades, understood English far better than they gave themselves credit for.

DU-folk just have a problem with some one from Mexico becoming a US citizen, especially if that person is also somewhat conservative.

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Re: Primitives disenfranchise Columba Bush with Jim Crow literacy test
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 08:33:48 PM »
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Response to anobserver2 (Reply #3)Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:33 PM
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I think Columba Bush may have also: never voted (because she can’t read the ballot), never had a drivers license (because she can’t read or pass the written test), and never applied for a US Passport herself (because she can’t read the application).


WTF? Does this idiot know how many millions of dollars are wasted printing government forms in multiple languages?

http://www.driverknowledge.com/illinois-dmv-prueba-de-practica/