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Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:40 AMMother Of Four (1,455 posts) So a few family friends came down, and we talked politics.First time in over the 7 years we've all known each other that the talk wasn't My dogs bigger than yours...The gramma and grampa have always voted R across the board, the uncle (grandsons uncle, son to gramma and grampa) has as well. The grandson (the one graduating) this is his first year to vote, his GF also her first year to vote. I'm hoping to talk to them a little later. FYI each and every time we've talked about politics in the past they've been part of the "Thanks Obama" blame game crowd no matter how many times I've explained to them how it works, or pointed out that it's pretty hard to get anything accomplished when people are putting land mines down in front of you constantly. The grandma even bought into the whole birth certificate crap. For the sake of peace we just all agreed to not talk about that, his religion, or anything else. So we're in the car(Gramma, Grampa, Uncle, myself), heading to grandsons graduation and the uncle pipes up with "Hear anything good about any of these jokers running?" So I say "You ever hear of Bernie Sanders?" They had, but hadn't heard very much. I tell them he's a progressive Independent and is running under the D in the primary. I share with them some of his voting history, talk about some of the speeches he's made etc. I didn't lay it on thick because I've learned with them that a little goes a long way. After I talk about him a little bit, chalk me up as surprised when they started asking questions. Specifically about social security, medical, etc. Then I ask the uncle, who is a long distance truck driver, how the roads were on the way down. (They are from Ohio BTW) He said they get worse every year. So I pop in there Bernie Sanders drive to get our infrastructure fixed, roads-bridges-schools etc. His response? "It's about d*mn time someone focused on that." Gramma pipes up and says "Well there's no way I'm voting for any of those whackadoodles they have running. Where do they find these people?" She was talking about the R party. Grampa then says "I'm going to have to seriously look at this guy(Bernie) when we get back home, if he's on the up and up I could vote independent." Everyone, all of them agreed. I'm forwarding a few links I have about him to them The conversation was much more detailed than what I'm putting down for the sake of simplicity but you get my drift. While we talked it smacked me in the face, he can really win this. I support him but I've been pretty down about his odds, especially with all the negative back and forth I've been reading. His secret strength? Being an (I) makes long time (R)'s take a closer look and consider voting for him in a very real way. He's not just going to appeal to Democrats, he's going to appeal to all walks because his message crosses those political lines in a way that none of the other candidates do. He's not appealing to a party, he's appealing to PEOPLE. PS if you notice not once did I slam HRC in this message and I don't intend to so please don't slam me for supporting my choice of candidate? Thanks for letting me share my feel good moment.
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:22 AMRobertEarl (9,582 posts) 1. Bernie People for the WinThis is the first real deal, People campaign I've ever seen and Bernie even said he will win because People, and not big money, will decide.
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:39 AMStar Member caraher (4,765 posts) 4. Ironic how branding Bernie as (I) helpsThey probably wouldn't listen if they knew he's generally to the left of (D)! Well done!
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:01 AMStar Member MrMickeysMom (15,356 posts) 5. Indeed, he really can win this thing, Mother...Your story is a prime example of the message finding its way to every day experiences of living in the USA.
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:37 AMindivisibleman (427 posts) 7. I have noticed this interest in Bernie from people on the right too.It is mostly folks that are centrist but usually vote R when the election comes around. But what is interesting is that they are bringing up Bernie on their own. It is like they are willing to listen to him because he isn't a Democrat.
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:39 AMsnagglepuss (10,395 posts) 9. I haven't heard the term "whackadoodle" in a monkey years.Enjoyed reading your post .You're a good storyteller
Response to Mother Of Four (Original post)Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:52 PMOctafish (46,499 posts) 24. Shows exactly why Bernie is capable of winning big.People are sick of the screws getting turned on them. D, R, I -- doesn't matter as much as a candidate with INTEGRITY who will do after elected what they talked about as a candidate is what everybody wants
You're a good storyteller
indivisibleman (427 posts) 7. I have noticed this interest in Bernie from people on the right too.
The only person I've ever heard bring up the birth certificate is Trump, yet every Dummy is related to someone talking about the birth certificate.And news flash Dummy, the roads suck because those states have shitty unions who bleed the taxpayer's money while providing shotty work.
I recall another time when the roads were riddled with potholes. They were so bad, the running joke was the Russians thought we were putting ICBM silos on our highways.It was during the tenure of a dim president, much like the one we have today. I believe his name was James Earl Carter.
S.C. back in the 50's had signs at the border, "See the best state on the best roads"....and it was true then. Those signs have been gone a long, long time.
Shiiite! Ya all ain't seen nothing. WV is the capital of the USA when it comes to shitty roads. If you live here and never popped a tire on a pot hole, then you don't drive a vehicle. Especially in the winter once the snow fills them in and you can't see them. WV is the Detroit of roads. We have a lot in common with detriot. We both been under dem control for decades. The standing joke around here is that we keep our roads in poor condition to keep out the clueless idiot Ohio drivers. They still come... but they come damn carefully.
Thank you!I started driving a truck before the WVTP was finished. The stretch of 3-lane road just south of Beckley was so bad, when I could while heading southbound, I'd move over into the 2 nortbbound lanes. The were somewhat smoother, but not much. Leftover legacy of the Rockefeller era.One of our smartass drivers got tired of dealing with the Ohio drivers on the Turnpike one July 4th week. He put this message on the back of his truck:"Will the last person leaving Ohio please turn off the lights!"
So I pop in there Bernie Sanders drive to get our infrastructure fixed, roads-bridges-schools etc. His response? "It's about d*mn time someone focused on that."