The leftists have been wanting a race war for years. They see it as the best chance to destroy the country and bring about a Socialist Government run by them. Theya re getting close to their goal.
marym625 (9,415 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026576892
When the National Guard and/or federal assistance is sent in when a cop kills a black man
And when the police department, union, etc excuse it and the prosecutor fails to indict, I will give a shit what happens to a corporate store or police vehicles.
Rubber bullets, tear gas, deployment of militarized police instead of stopping the systematic violence by police across America, is inexcusable and just asking for problems.
So **** that noise.
There is absolutely no excuse for the continued, systematic racism and murder of young black men, the poor and the mentally ill. The incarceration of so very many people for so very long is part of the corpocracy we now live in.
Something has to happen to wake people and the government up. Peaceful protest has gotten us nowhere. Time after time after time we see atrocities, murders, on video and nothing is done. Even in the rare case that someone is charged, just turn around and tomorrow you'll see it again.
So just **** the noise that we should be upset that poor CVS was looted and burned. **** that noise that we should be angry with protesters that a poor money grubbing "banking" check cashing company that basically rapes a neighborhood is destroyed
I do not advocate destroying a neighborhood, a small, mom and pop business, or anyone being physically harmed. But if this shit keeps up, it will be much worse than what we have seen in decades. Maybe ever.
As Al Jeezera reporters just said, this is war. The reporter that was beaten by the police, for no reason, in Baltimore is on the ground for Al Jeezera.
Nuclear Unicorn (15,008 posts)
7. "You have move complacent people off their places of comfort."
Which side of the barricades are we trying to move them to? Because right now the people whose safety, homes and livelihoods are being threatened are calling for the police and want the police empowered to protect them
marym625 (9,415 posts)
19. How about the call to end the murders by cops?
The beatings by cops? The endless racial profiling? The unbelievable number of incarcerations for profit? Why haven't they been screaming for justice as every single day people are wrongly arrested, ticketed, even just pulled over?
Oktober (1,139 posts)
95. This whole thread reeks of NIMBY...
I suspect most wouldn't be cheering if it was their home, business or job.
marym625 (9,415 posts)
8. Come on Nye.
You know exactly what I am talking about. These are companies that are complicit in the corpocracy.
I don't want this to happen. I want the murders to stop. I want the people here and everywhere that so easily criticize the people in these areas that are so very frustrated and sick to death of being victimized by the system, be as quick and vocal in their criticism of the system, of the police.
I want an announcement from the government that the murders will stop and that the president, Congress, governors and local governments will work non stop until something is agreed upon to stop the senseless murders.
But no. It's always, we will stop the protests, we will stop the looting, we will stop the protesters. But we will do nothing to stop the cause
blackspade (6,424 posts)
41. And how many people have to die at the hands of cops.
what does the body count have to be before the M$M and our corporate masters focus on the problem long enough for the public to give a shit?
What are to monetary losses of a business compared to the loss of life inflicted by the cops.
This is called blowback. if you take away the ability of a group of people to have a stake in control of their own lives, this is the result.
The bloviating about the 'riots' is a way of diverting attention from the actual problems of our police state.
In 2014 there were 14,196 homicides in the US (a 4.4% decrease from the previous year)
Of those homicides 5,375 were by Black offenders.
Of those homicides 464 were termed justifiable homicides by Law Enforcement.
... 281 were termed justifiable homicides by Private Citizens
I am not seeing the systematic oppression and death by cop the leftists like to shout about.
marym625 (9,415 posts)
14. I honestly feel like I am going to break.
And I am a white woman. I don't know how this can keep happening
Demeter (79,471 posts)
39. You aren't alone
on any of those points.
I was 12 when the riots roared through Detroit, and my parents were terrified, since we lived on a main street that the National Guard was patrolling.
Summer school was suspended for a week...I was trying to advance 1/2 year to get on the September schedule...they let me advance, anyway. I never did get past the Civil War in history, though...instead, I got to see it in person.
Seeing the burnt out streets was sobering. It was the beginning of the end for the Motor City, an end that is accelerating now, as the poor are nagged and nibbled and displaced and deprived out to make room for the developers and their grandiose schemes.
It will not end well. Will it end at all? We may not live long enough to see. We have no leadership to combat the Empire, no tactics, no goals even. We need Occupy to return and grow.
A 1967 bouncy? At 60 years old you are part of the problem, sunshine.
ciaobaby (18 posts)
73. I feel your pain
I too am a white woman - 65 years old. This is insanity. The press is tripping all over itself to express the abhorrence for cops being injured, damage to property, cars burning, rocks being thrown, and on and on.
But where is the abhorrence for the loss of life of innocent young black men. All the previous "peaceful" protests have produced NOTHING.
I sit here listening to all the plans to address the riots, bring in the National Guard, declare curfew.
Any plans YET to arrest and bring to trial any of these murdering racist cops ????? No - they remain on paid vacation.
I am so sick of this I could scream.
Hope some of you also heard Michael Eric Dyson on MSNBC - he was excellent.
As long as the protests remain peaceful it's business as usual.
ciaobaby (18 posts)
107. Mayor of Baltimore
At press conference the current Baltimore mayor assures us they will use all videos of the violence to bring the rioters to justice. Ironic isn't it. Perhaps she did not see the video of Baltimore's finest dragging Freddie Grey screaming in pain, unable to walk, and ultimately ending up with a severed spinal cord - unless she just doesn't see the need to bring them to justice until their paid vacation is over !
Holy lord I am depressed.
libdem4life (5,373 posts)
21. I want to know what the tab is and who is paying for this phalanx of Police, Military, and other
assorted war tactics. One might consider that the money would have been better spent on the community...before, rather than against. This is shameful. The police are out of control and there is no one to stop them. Want to bet it doesn't take a week to "investigate" whoever injured a policeman?
Amazing how we find the money and legal authority post haste for some, and almost never for others. It is a shame on our nation.
appalachiablue (2,782 posts)
126. Quite right, why isn't the police state $ being used to train people and create jobs! and
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revitalize 'post industrial' cities and rural, small town areas where there is little work, no grocery stores only convenience junk food places, and poverty, idleness, lack of stable community life which leads to crime, drugs, violence, mental illness and incarceration. Same in bombed out Midwestern areas, the Rustbelt, South and many other places in the US now.
NYC with finance, DC with govt., lobbyists and defense contractors, Silicon Valley's tech industry, Chicago and a few other major metro areas seem to be the main places thriving esp. from development, high property values and major gentrification for elites displacing regular workers. The rest of America may just be decaying, being plundered by predators or neglected altogether. This can't continue, or maybe it can..
rhett o rick (43,485 posts)
32. This is my opinion. The Plutocratic Oligarchs are currently waging war against all of the 99%.
They have chosen to pay particular attention to the black community. Why? Not because they are racists, although some are but that always takes a backseat to greed, but because they can rationalize it or justify it, because a lot of Americans that watch Corp-Media believe that black males are thugs. So what is the white community think about all this? Seems to me that they are largely ambivalent or possibly moderately sympathetic, but over all ignorant to what is really transpiring here.
Who does the police department work for? They work for the community. So are the police doing the bidding of the community? If you don't think so, take action. Tell the mayor, set up a citizens review board. In my opinion the white community needs to step up. We can't sit back and wait. If we don't step up, at some point, the black community, will have enough of the killing and racist treatment and will rise up and fight back. This, of course IMO, is the worse thing they can do, but I would totally understand. The whole community needs to step up and get those police that work for us to treat people like we want them treated before the situation reaches the exploding point.
Don't let the Power That Be divide us.
NuclearDem (11,905 posts)
36. This is getting so ****ing old.
Black man gets gunned down, and all the ****ing concern is over a couple of cars and a convenience store.
That's right, black Americans--you're worth less than a ****ing car.
Ilsa (35,831 posts)
71. Black lives, the disabled, the poor, matter.
The Guard should be protecting citizens against racist cops.
I don't want anyone to get hurt. But I don't give a rat's ass about the cvs or police cars.
Quayblue (216 posts)
132. and war is never pretty
when will people LISTEN to the people who are hurting. ****ing LISTEN!!! *tears*
And it absolutely sucks that the only way black people in this country can get people to pay attention is by burning shit..
No one pays attention when jobs are eliminated...
or drugs are "somehow" filtered into the community..
or whatever else historical BULLSHIT that has gone on in this country people choose to ignore.
I'm going to ****ing bed because I have children to raise tomorrow, and Lord knows I try.
