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Offline Mr Mannn

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The GOP Is Dead
« on: April 26, 2015, 11:55:10 AM »
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The GOP Is Dead
It's really too bad there aren't going to be any more Republican presidents. They can lay their presidential aspirations aside. There will never again be a Republican in the White House. The GOP has committed an unlikely suicide. By embracing the radical Tea Party, Republicans have sacrificed their party to extremism and their future to an obscurity that few would have predicted just twenty years ago. And that is a shame for several reasons. But my favorite is this. It would have been fun to reverse the roles, turn the tables and tear their guy limb from limb.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/25/1380327/-The-GOP-is-DEAD

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Da Mannn (2,211 posts)
1. Yeah, we sure learned out lesson in 2014.
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NavyBrat (683 posts)
2. Was there a Presidential election in 2014? D*mn, I missed it!

The OP clearly referenced Presidential contests; and while I believe their premise to be faulty, your response is a non sequitur.
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LaughingGull (3,591 posts)
9. Oh yeah, of course...

Because people always have one set of beliefs and values for mid-terms....and a different set of beliefs and values for Presidential elections.



Your response is....well, it's just stupid.
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10. If you are unable to discern the difference between ...

a national election and state and local elections … well, stupid is involved, but not on this end.
And you seem more than willing to accept that the beliefs and values expressed in the 2012 Presidential election somehow drastically changed by the 2014 midterms. I guess it only goes one way, correct?
(It's OK, at this point no one expects consistency, or even coherence from you.)
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LaughingGull (3,591 posts)
12. Really....do things have to be explained to you in detail?

<sigh>

Poster: GOP is dead! No one likes Republicans anymore! Woo Hoo!
2nd Poster: (Reminds 1st poster of the 2014 mid-term election results)
You: The OP is about Presidential elections, not mid-terms, you dope
Me: People's ideals, beliefs and values - the things that drive them when they vote - aren't any different during mid-terms than they are during Presidential elections.

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11. The party that controls both Houses of Congress is "dead"?

That's a remarkable corpse!
This is what I like about DI. For the first time in their lives DUmmies must deal with people who laugh and mock their talking points. Accusations of racism just bounce off. People are allowed to disagree. Its rather shocking for dummies used to Skinner's island.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 12:00:58 PM »
It appears to be a forum where libs can sharpen their debating skills...
You're stupid,
You're blind,
You're constipated,
You have diarrhea,
You're wrong,
Am not,
You are,
Racist,
Homophobe,
Hater.
It's powerful stuff, for a lib.


edit: add.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 12:10:22 PM »
Yep, its about all they can do.
One guy responded to me about thirty times, "Don't you get tired of always being wrong?"
outside of their protective womb, DUmmies are socially crippled.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 12:20:30 PM »
They like to retreat to ad hominems, straw man arguments and just plain ol' not being smart enough to understand what has been said to them and then congratulate themselves on being the smart one.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2015, 03:33:51 PM »
Blah, blah, blah! Woof, woof, woof!

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 1974-1976; Reagan got elected President in 1980, running against an incumbent President.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 1996-2000; G. W. Bush got elected President in 2000, and reelected in 2004.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 2008-2010; the Rs kicked D tail in the House and came close to capturing the Senate.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 2012 and 2013; the Rs kicked D tail in the House, again, and captured the Senate.

The same sort of thing could be said of the Ds in the aftermath of the 2002 and 2004 elections, where they got hurt, yet recovered in 2006 and 2008.

The lesson is that predictions of the death of either the D or the R Party are fatuous at best. That said, let the DU-folk and self-deceived Ds expend their energy, lots of it, planning and rejoicing over the wake for the R Party they imagine can be held soon. Energy thus wasted won't be expended in winning elections.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 04:55:53 PM »
They say that all the time.  :mental:
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 05:08:38 PM »
These kinds of Democrat arguments make election night all the sweeter
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2015, 05:42:51 PM »
The GOP is dead, Rush Limbaugh is done for, and global warming has reached its tipping point.

They are stupid.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2015, 06:52:57 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on April 26, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
Blah, blah, blah! Woof, woof, woof!

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 1974-1976; Reagan got elected President in 1980, running against an incumbent President.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 1996-2000; G. W. Bush got elected President in 2000, and reelected in 2004.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 2008-2010; the Rs kicked D tail in the House and came close to capturing the Senate.

The MSM pronounced the R Party's death in 2012 and 2013; the Rs kicked D tail in the House, again, and captured the Senate.

The same sort of thing could be said of the Ds in the aftermath of the 2002 and 2004 elections, where they got hurt, yet recovered in 2006 and 2008.

The lesson is that predictions of the death of either the D or the R Party are fatuous at best. That said, let the DU-folk and self-deceived Ds expend their energy, lots of it, planning and rejoicing over the wake for the R Party they imagine can be held soon. Energy thus wasted won't be expended in winning elections.

Neither Reps nor Dems cannot be counted out ever. In the two party system that we have, people will always become dissatisfied with the current party in power after a while and the other party will ascend to power.

The statistic I would look at is how long a party stays in power in congress. That will show you the true lasting power of a particular party's platform. For instance the dems took the house in 2008 and promptly lost it in 2010. Forget gerrymandering as an excuse as that is a function of what is happening in the state legislatures. It has always existed. Then we have the senate. The dems took it in 2008 and lost it in 2014.  That tells me the modern dem party platform is not that popular. All things being equal, without the MSM being in the tank for the dems, I would guess the Reps would be in power a lot more than they currently are.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2015, 02:10:18 AM »
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This is what I like about DI. For the first time in their lives DUmmies must deal with people who laugh and mock their talking points. Accusations of racism just bounce off. People are allowed to disagree. Its rather shocking for dummies used to Skinner's island.

Agreed, at first, but the headache inducing stupid has become simply too much to even argue.  That Argentina primitive, is a prime example.  You're absolutely correct on the pushback.   Drives 'em nuts.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2015, 05:00:24 AM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on April 26, 2015, 06:52:57 PM
Neither Reps nor Dems cannot be counted out ever. In the two party system that we have, people will always become dissatisfied with the current party in power after a while and the other party will ascend to power.

The statistic I would look at is how long a party stays in power in congress. That will show you the true lasting power of a particular party's platform. For instance the dems took the house in 2008 and promptly lost it in 2010. Forget gerrymandering as an excuse as that is a function of what is happening in the state legislatures. It has always existed. Then we have the senate. The dems took it in 2008 and lost it in 2014.  That tells me the modern dem party platform is not that popular. All things being equal, without the MSM being in the tank for the dems, I would guess the Reps would be in power a lot more than they currently are.

I often wonder how the last couple of presidential elections would have turned out if the MSM had reported the news instead of acting as the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 05:25:45 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 26, 2015, 12:20:30 PM
They like to retreat to ad hominems, straw man arguments and just plain ol' not being smart enough to understand what has been said to them and then congratulate themselves on being the smart one.

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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 08:25:39 AM »
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“I am not on the ballot this fall. Michelle’s pretty happy about that. But make no mistake: These policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them,” Obama said in prepared remarks at Northwestern University.

So, did they not see that speech?   ::)
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 08:30:52 AM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on April 27, 2015, 05:00:24 AM
I often wonder how the last couple of presidential elections would have turned out if the MSM had reported the news instead of acting as the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.

I'll take that, "I wonder," back 9-12 months and into finer detail. I wonder what might have been had the MSM not anointed John McCain the GOP 2008 nominee. And had the MSM not anointed BHO the 2008 nominee.
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Re: The GOP Is Dead
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 08:36:05 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 27, 2015, 08:25:39 AM
So, did they not see that speech?   ::)

They saw it...and they choose to ignore it because they got their asses handed to them in the 2014 mid term.

You can believe that had they won the mid terms...we'd have been reminded 24/7 about what you bolded above.

Instead they lost and we get "I'm speaking for the 2/3'rds that didn't vote" BS and of course all the clapping seals dutifully parrot that.
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