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Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« on: April 08, 2015, 01:21:19 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026472730

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What cops really think of cops killing American citizens


I visit cop forums from time to time, mostly just to keep my eye on them. Believe me, they aren't pretty. Lots of them are ex-military, almost all of them are Republicans, many of them of the Tea Party faction, and to say that they have an elitist, authoritarian mindset in which they believe that they are divine retribution against evil and an ethically impeccable force for good and above reproach is an incredible understatement.

But even this thread shocked even me. I'm used to the usual excuses cops make when their bad behavior makes it onto youtube or the news. "The video doesn't tell the whole story. The suspect was clearly resisting. The suspect had a bad attitude. We weren't actually there so how do we know? The dog was barking so the officer had to shoot it...yadda yadda ya." But here's what some of nation's finest had to say about the video of the SC police officer gunning down an unarmed black man (who was wanted for failure to pay child support) and then planting his taser on him....

http://forums.officer.com/t199100/

"I, for one, was extremely shocked to hear the first words out of Wolfe Blitzer's mouth to be "White" and "African American".

Doesn't look good and now media has something to talk about for another few months at the minimum to try and stir things back up..."

"Race has nothing to do with it.
But AGAIN, a FAILURE of this Thug to just acquiesce to the lawful commands of the Officer, instead, this POS fights the Officer and takes a weapon.

At least he won't steal again. Lesson learned...

I'll let the JUDICIAL system figure it out."

"Video doesn't look good, but if he winds up on death row, I'll riot."

"It's not in most states, it's in EVERY state. Tennesee vs.Garner is a Supreme Court decision that affects the whole country. Fleeing felon rule allows police officers to shoot a suspect in the back under certain circumstances.

I'm not going to judge this officer."

"It isn't a pretty video, but video doesn't always tell the whole story."

What kills me is I've read numerous threads on this forum where the cops are lamenting the fact that people don't respect them anymore. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

So the Dummy hand selected the worst quotes from a cop forum, and I don't see any really defending the cop.  Fail.

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1. Even the one who condemned him at the start

Would have celebrated if it was a child molester. He still believes they have the right to kill anyone they don't see as fit to live in their world.

And the Dummies would have tried to legalize child molestation. 

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Star Member NYC_SKP (66,169 posts)
2. "Stay Frosty"

"Watch your backs brothers. Our job just got more dangerous due to thugs wanting to avenge this guy. Stay frosty."

Why did this moron pull out this quote?  Is he upset that one cop is warning other cops to stay cool and be on alert?  He probably thinks "frosty" is a racial term. 

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5. I'm not real sure what that even means.

But I'm going with something along the lines of take no prisoners.

But yeah, nothing like a trip to one of the cop forums to get a taste of what they think of us.

No. It doesn't mean take no prisoners.  You are a moron.

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Star Member Rex (52,017 posts)
6. Stay frosty means keep alert and on your toes.

So really hard to know if that was a warning to the rotten cops or the good ones or the XYZ ones.

Two cops were assassinated after your fake Mike Brown narrative, so you wonder what this means?

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Star Member Warpy (82,031 posts)
4. Well, they're right about a few things

The video doesn't look good but it's premature to throw a rope over a tree and hang the guy because the video didn't show the whole story. Let this go through the judicial system and make sure jurors hear the whole story. It's not a foolproof system, but it's the best we've got to work with.

I didn't like what I saw, either. In fact, I was impressed more by his callousness after he shot the guy even more than the shooting, itself.

I was disgusted by that.

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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 01:55:30 AM »
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Star Member Warpy (82,031 posts)
4. Well, they're right about a few things

The video doesn't look good but it's premature to throw a rope over a tree and hang the guy because the video didn't show the whole story. Let this go through the judicial system and make sure jurors hear the whole story. It's not a foolproof system, but it's the best we've got to work with.

I didn't like what I saw, either. In fact, I was impressed more by his callousness after he shot the guy even more than the shooting, itself.

I was disgusted by that.

Wow, Warpy seems to have learned something about jumping to conclusions based on feelings instead of facts. 

OTOH, the video does look pretty damning for the cop.  No way for self-defense, and unless there are unknown warrants making the guy a possible dangerous felon, it looks like he cold-bloodedly shot him in the back.


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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 01:59:18 AM »
Wow, Warpy seems to have learned something about jumping to conclusions based on feelings instead of facts. 

OTOH, the video does look pretty damning for the cop.  No way for self-defense, and unless there are unknown warrants making the guy a possible dangerous felon, it looks like he cold-bloodedly shot him in the back.

Exactly.  Ever since Tennessee v. Garner, cops just can't shoot a fleeing suspect. 

It also appears the cops moved the stun gun, at least according to some reports. 

Cop looks like a cold-blooded murderer, and if so, the justice system will convict him accordingly.

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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 04:05:31 AM »
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2. "Stay Frosty"
:rofl:

Wake up, Skipper!!!!  wAkE UUUUP!!!!!111


....and just what is a addled-brained hippie going to do when he's ...............frosty?

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:   :bird: , too.


Cop looks like a cold-blooded murderer, and if so, the justice system will convict him accordingly.

As it should be. 

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5. I'm not real sure what that even means.

But I'm going with something along the lines of take no prisoners.

Pretty please?  Me first.
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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 08:40:58 AM »
I think the dump is going to be sad to see that we look at evidence and this cop looks pretty damn guilty.   I am for cameras on everything regarding cops.  360 degree camera views on the tops of the vehicles and body cams.  This is good for the suspect and the cop to prove who did what.






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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 10:07:29 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026472730

So the Dummy hand selected the worst quotes from a cop forum, and I don't see any really defending the cop.  Fail.
Hand-selected, and possibly ripped out of a context that contradicted the DU-member's point.

At least one comment is the simple truth: fleeing set in motion the train of events that ended with his death. Pointing out that fact does not mean his death was justified (which the person who made that comment may have also pointed out in the context the DU-member omitted).

A point that the DU-folk seem to have missed in their eagerness to smear the 800K-900K LEOs in the US: the justice system - in North Caroline, a southern bogey-state - is working; Slager has been charged with murder, with the possibility of the death penalty.
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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2015, 10:59:28 AM »
Cops provide plenty of red meat for the cop-haters, and there is a wealth of stuff filmed and put on the internet every day that is totally inexcusable and rarely met with any judicial reckoning.  Prosecutors are understandably reluctant to destroy the credibility of an entire force over a bad actor and cops have a very strong professional ethic about closing ranks to protect even their own worst by silence or denial if not outright falsehood, so indictments are rare even in extreme cases, let alone convictions. 

Unfortunately, all this has the effect of enraging the populace against all of them when the story of the abuses gets out anyway, and the good cops that closed ranks to protect the stinkers end up paying the price when the whole thing reaches critical mass.

And yes, sadly, cops aren't any more honest than anyone else on the stand, as a prosecutor I've had cops whose cases I wouldn't take to court because I knew they'd testified falsely in the past and I wanted no part in putting perjured testimony forward.
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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2015, 11:37:35 AM »
And then there's this shooting . . .

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Latest Poster Boy For “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” Ripped Off Gun Moments Before Being Shot

Posted by Bob Owens on April 7, 2015 at 5:08 pm

Justus Howell’s family is trying vainly to assert that the young man shot twice by Zion, Illinois police was a good kid with dreams of becoming a surgeon.
 
That illusion is taking a beating, now that police have revealed that Howell allegedly stole the weapon that was in his possession at the time of his shooting via strong-arm robbery  just moments before police arrived.

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A Waukegan teenager had just stolen a handgun from another man [Tramond Peet] when he was shot and killed by Zion police during a foot chase, authorities said late Monday.
 
The man told police he had arranged to meet with 17-year-old Justus Howell in Zion on Saturday afternoon to sell him the weapon, officials said. But then Howell tried to take the gun from him without paying for it and the two struggled over the weapon before Howell fled with the weapon when police showed up, according to a news release from Zion police.

The rest of this story:  http://bearingarms.com/latest-poster-boy-hands-dont-shoot-ripped-gun-moments-shot/

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.  He wanted to be a surgeon?  How many surgeons used to be felons?  I'd hazard a guess and say 'not many.'

There's also an explanation of the Illinois law about LEOs using deadly force.
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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2015, 11:52:27 AM »
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.  He wanted to be a surgeon?   How many surgeons used to be felons?  I'd hazard a guess and say 'not many.'



I wanted to be rich, hot, and big boobies.  I'm so broke  :(






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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2015, 12:10:24 PM »
I wanted to be rich, hot, and big boobies.  I'm so broke  :(

at least you have a nice personality  :whistling:
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I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2015, 12:26:48 PM »
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/south-carolina-police-shooting-tim-scott-response-116759.html#ixzz3WjS4QP13

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Scott, the lone African-American Republican in the Senate, urged calm among all of his constituents.


I love Politico's bias.  How many African American Democrats are in the Senate??


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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »
I wanted to be rich, hot, and big boobies.  I'm so broke  :(

Two out of three ain't bad.  :naughty:

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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2015, 05:53:27 PM »
Two out of three ain't bad.  :naughty:


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Re: Dummies Shift from Gay Pizzas to Cop Hating
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2015, 11:24:46 PM »
Let the conspiracy theories begin.  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026476891

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3. Looks like the video has already been edited

and now starts with the taser on the ground. The original has been pulled from the Post and Courier.

Now it might be my imagination, but I could swear the four or five times I watched the beginning of that video yesterday, it looked like Scott either jerked from shock or slapped the taser out of the cop's hand. At no time did he take any sort of hold of it.

Do any of the rest of you remember the beginning like I do?

There is an obvious edit at the beginning of the video now. It was not well done.