In one post everything that could be wrong about the story is mentioned...

[dutch508]

NJNP hasn't a clue, poor soul. She writes stories so are away from reality even the other DUmpmonkiez shake their heads. She writes about Ferguson... and get's every fact wrong.

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026390528

DOJ couldn't prove Wilson WASN'T in fear for his life, of course he WAS in fear for his life.
The entire case comes down to whether or not the DOJ could PROVE the cop was NOT in fear for his life.

So, the DOJ had to prove that Wilson was NOT in fear for his life and they couldnt prove that because of course Wilson had CREATED a situation where he damned well deserved to be in fear for his life.

What did he create?

Go back to the city itself, harassment of black people as if it was 1920's Alabama, add to that the "get the **** out of the street"

SLAMMING the car in reverse and practically running into Brown, so close to him he cant get the door open and then NOT waiting for back up and then fighting over a gun Brown figured would be used to kill him (guess he was right) and so while running away and being shot at, Brown turns around and does who knows what, OF COURSE that ****ing racist pig **** was in fear for his life.

So if a cop is shooting at you for JAYWALKING and you figure the only way to save your LIFE is to maybe run toward the cop to stop the shooting as you are UNARMED , that is what you do; personally I don't believe he did that at all, I think he fell toward the cop while the cop ruthlessly and with NO regard for Browns life, slaughtered him in the street like a rabid dog.

 
 

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts)
6. What the defenders of the racist cop dont understand is, there is no debate here.

Only certain people are "debating" whether or not Wilson is clearly a racist, that he CREATED this situation (not unlike Georgie Boy Zimmerman created his) and Brown is now dead.

If these things were happening repeatedly to young white men by racist black cops (black people cant be racist in america but if you reverse everything the past 200 yrs they could be) you would see a civil war, period.

hack89 (29,847 posts)
15. Brown was not a 150 feet away.

Wilson got out of his car to chase him and did not shoot. He was 30 feet away when Brown turned and ran towards him. That is when he shot. Brown was 15 feet away when Wilson shot him. That is what the forensic evidence shows.

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

 

DefenseLawyer (8,904 posts)
28. Forensics can't establish the distance the shots were fired from

Forensics can show if the gun was pressed against the flesh, it can show if a shot was fired from less than two feet. The forensics can't establish with any certainty the distance beyond that. (There are no nitrates or other residue) The 15 feet comes from Wilson's testimony, not from forensics. You are free to believe the officer of course, but you can't rely on forensics to establish the distance. There was blood 180 feet from the SUV, which is then 20 some feet from where the body ended up. There is no other blood on the roadway. There is a shell casing recovered on the ground beside the SUV which would indicate that at least one was fired when he exited the vehicle, not after a chase. There was more than one shot, remember. Your officer emptied his gun. The fatal shot was in the top of the guy's head.

The shell casings were located less than 35 feet from Browns body. Shell casings were found in the police car. You can make up facts as truth but you can't change facts to suit your needs.

hack89 (29,847 posts)
36. The 15 feet actually comes from eyewitness accounts

this is what we know:

1. Two shoots fired at the SUV, 10 shoots fired on the roadway.

2. No evidence or eyewitness accounts of Wilson shooting at Brown's back as he chased Brown.

3. Brown turned and ran towards Wilson. That is when Wilson started shooting

4. Wilson shoot three distinct volleys, stopping between each one. He hit Brown between 6 and 8 times.

5. Brown moved 23 feet towards Wilson after he was first shot in the road. (The body was closer to the SUV than the blood on the road. You have that fact backwards.)

6. Seven shell casings were found in close proximity to Brown's body.

The DOJ states that the physical evidence support Wilson's story.

uponit7771 (21,564 posts)
45. Point number two is a red herring, Brown was shot at FROM the back and that is against the law

... Wilson bold faced lied about that too.

ON THE STAND...

Number 3 is NOT verified by MOST of the witness's

Number 5 is irrelevant, no REASONABLE person is going to believe an unarmed person 23 feet away from an armed person is a threat to the armed person.

That's what the DOJ is also not answerign

hack89 (29,847 posts)
53. Go read the DOJ report. They say otherwise.

you need to stop cherry picking your witnesses and look at the big picture.

As for number 5, Brown ran 20 feet towards Wilson after being shot multiple times. So yes, a reasonable man would think that Brown represented a threat. If I told a man to stop, he charged right at me and doesn't stop even after I shot him once, then I would be fearful for my life.

XemaSab (59,181 posts)
81. How did Brown's blood wind up inside Wilson's police cruiser?

How did Brown's blood wind up on Wilson's gun?

uponit7771 (21,564 posts)
106. no ones taking Wilsons word for anything, he's a liar and a coward who decided not to

... file a report cause you know... he did everything by the book.

Either way, Wilson gave the reason why he shot at Brown THE FIRST SHOT after Brown turned around...

It was a damn lie that NOT ONE of the witness's corroborated...

 

hack89 (29,847 posts)
56. From the DOJ report

As detailed throughout this report, several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson. According to these witnesses, who are corroborated by blood evidence in the roadway, as Brown continued to move toward Wilson, Wilson fired at Brown in what appeared to be self-defense and stopped firing once Brown fell to the ground. Wilson stated that he feared Brown would again assault him because of Brown’s conduct at the SUV and because as Brown moved toward him, Wilson saw Brown reach his right hand under his t-shirt into what appeared to be his waistband. There is no evidence upon which prosecutors can rely to disprove Wilson’s stated subjective belief that he feared for his safety.

Hoyt (18,239 posts)
67. Wilson should have kept his distance and waited for backup. Instead he preferred to intimidate

Brown and blast away in a densely populated neighborhood, without regard for innocent people.

Wilson had the upperhand, but choose to kill unarmed Brown, who should have been arrested and tried in court, not executed in the street.

hack89 (29,847 posts)
93. Cops chase felons all the time

Last edited Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:52 PM - Edit history (2)

Brown chose to attack Wilson twice. He could have stopped when ordered. He could have stopped when shot the first time.

At some point, Brown becomes responsible for his actions.

Enrique (26,081 posts)
23. it seems deliberate

a credible, devastating DOJ report comes out and has an immediate impact, and now people such as the OP are directing our attention back to the least credible aspect of the whole protest movement. In this case a version of events that was discredited days after the shooting.

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts)
7. Of course they do. ALWAYS believe the white racist cop...

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts)
25. DOJ said they cant prove he wasnt in fear for his life, that is ALL they said when you get down to

uponit7771 (21,564 posts)
50. DOJ Doesn't answer the question of why Wilson shot from 15 - 30 feet away.. that wasn't the job of the report.

Yo_Mama (6,113 posts)
79. Actually it does

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown.pdf

I've read it. The physical evidence shows that Brown was moving toward Wilson and Wilson was moving back.

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts)
12. Nice try, means nothing...Racist cop created unecessary situation and unarmed black kid is dead

try as hard as you want, you cant escape these facts

XemaSab (59,181 posts)
89. Was there any way that Wilson could interacted with Brown

that WASN'T racist in your view?

Even telling him to get out of the street was racist! Even though it's part of the job of a cop to ensure pedestrian and motorist safety!

DiverDave (4,264 posts)
38. Its all conjecture The only witness that this is based on is the cop a lying member of a racists pd.
Go away, MB had a right to be walking wherever he wanted to walk.
Shooting him was murder. PERIOD.
You sure you are on the right site?

NaturalHigh (9,539 posts)
34. I thought the DOJ report said Wilson knew...

about the store robbery. That makes the initial contact about more than "jaywalking."

I understand that you fully believe what you posted, but do you really think your theory would ever result in a jury conviction?

[obumazombie]

Can't tell if they are ignorant or intolerant.

[BlueStateSaint]

I have to hand it to the hacking primitive--he's not backing down.  I wonder when he'll be tombstoned?

[98ZJUSMC]

Can't tell if they are ignorant or intolerant.

Ignorant of the obvious and intolerant of the inconvenient.  These amoebas will replay this in their empty heads for the next 30 years, still trying to prove the nonexistent. 

NoJusticeNoPeace (2,957 posts)
12. Nice try, means nothing...Racist cop created unecessary situation and unarmed black kid is dead try as hard as you want, you cant escape these facts

He's posting facts.  You're looking for an exit.

[Carl]

DefenseLawyer (8,904 posts)
28. Forensics can't establish the distance the shots were fired from

Forensics can show if the gun was pressed against the flesh, it can show if a shot was fired from less than two feet. The forensics can't establish with any certainty the distance beyond that.

I bet that between trajectories and bullet deforment resulting from speed and energy loss as it travels given distances and impacts with tissue and bone the distance between muzzle and target can be quite easily and accurately identified based on the known ballistics of a round.

Of course all the DUmnass knows is from watching old Perry Mason TV shows.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"black people cant be racist in america"
  OMG, It always kills me when leftists make this idiotic, untrue, hypocritical, bigoted statement. If a white person wrongs a black person in any way, the left immediately labels it a racist hate crime regardless of the circumstances. In contrast, a black person can target, mistreat, or even brutally assault or kill a white person in a way which clearly shows that it was racially motivated (i.e. In California, at a Halloween party some years ago, a group of white teenage girls were horrifically attacked by a mob of black teenagers who repeatedly shouted things like "I f**king hate white people!"; One of the girls, who had been repeatedly bashed in the head with a skateboard by one of the assailants, suffered permanent damage to her vision; During the trial, witnesses for the prosecution faced threats and intimidation by gang members; Being a liberal state like California, all the known assailants of course got off with barely a slap on the wrist if anything at all), and the left will vehemently deny that there was anything remotely racist at all about it. The standard half- @$$ed liberal justification for this idiotic double- standard is usually something along the lines of "It's impossible for blacks to be racist, because they've been victims of white oppression. That means that anything they do against white people is a righteous expression of anger over past grievances, and the white victims are all getting what they deserve for what their ancestors may have possibly done to black people decades if not centuries ago. In fact, blacks who do that should all get medals and be recognized as heroes of social justice."
Screw every bigoted, race- baiting creep that tries to claim that.
"NaturalHigh (9,539 posts)
34. I thought the DOJ report said Wilson knew...

about the store robbery. That makes the initial contact about more than "jaywalking." "

Huh.
There have been loads of times that someone here has beaten me to pointing out a gigantic hole in a DUmmy's idiotic statement, but this is one of the only times I've seen that a fellow DUmmy has done so!
Impressive.

Can't tell if they are ignorant or intolerant.

NJNP amply demonstrates both qualities.

[jtyangel]

Given the way of thinking movie buff pointed out to justify blacks showing righteous anger to oppression they've never experienced one would hope they should be well prepared for the righteous anger of the white great-grandchildren of the people currently being assaulted then. Ie for the dummies your system of belief will continue a pendulum that will just shift back and forth every 100 years based on who got oppressed and harassed 100 years earlier. Nice going pea brains.

[SVPete]

"black people cant be racist in america"
  OMG, It always kills me when leftists make this idiotic, untrue, hypocritical, bigoted statement.

Keep in mind that Libs and Progs making this claim are using a question-begging "definition" of "racist" and "racism". In their "definition" only members of the majority race can be "racist". IOW, their desired conclusion is built into their premise (aka "begging the question).

[Big Dog]

The DUmmies have moved past criminal stupidity, and are rapidly approaching terminal stupidity.

When that day comes, may they reap what they have sown.