We have got to find a way to go after the press!

[dutch508]

Once the leftists destroy the free press what will there be to stop them?

Nothing.

rainy (4,535 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026347416

We have got to find a way to go after the press!

They always let the republicans do all the explaining. Example: Ron Paul on NBC this morning with Matt: Ron gets to discuss what was wrong with Hillary's email comments and he gets to discuss the 47 senator's letter. So where was the democratic voice to discuss the letter or Hillary? We never get adequate air time and that is the media not us. We say plenty but never get the microphone.
The right has destroyed every great democrat with complete aid and encouragement from the media. Carter, Clinton and on and on.
We need to come up with a great plan using social media, banners, flash mobs, leaflets whatever it takes to put an end to this media bias and that is what it is. They are biased to the monied and powerful republicans.

Cha (158,867 posts)
2. I hear ya, rainy.. Thank Goodness for the internet and social media. I dropped all corporatewhore media in Nov 2002.

Freaking ron paul.. libertarian bullshit idiot.

 
Ronulans. Not even the commies like them.

heaven05 (8,645 posts)
6. 2003 for me NPR and NYT were the hardest, but dumped they were. Ron Paul, just part of the paul klan....

 

Where do tehy get their news? DU and Comedy Central.

Ilsa (35,618 posts)
4. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

Notify the tv news outlets that they are boycotted until they pressure Congress to bring it back.

It won't fix everything, but it's a good start.

kacekwl (94 posts)
5. Question is are the democratic leaders asking for the microphone ?

Fred Sanders (11,162 posts)
8. What? That is not the question, new poster! That is an example of the deflection. "D" for effort.

 

Fred Sanders (11,162 posts)
7. The corporate media just had their number one most trusted talking head ever admit lying...what more do you need to know? BILBO lying not enough for Fox viewers to stop trusting them, Williams not enough for the rest of the viewing folks? And remember Iraq....they all want you to forget.

??? 

Snarkoleptic (3,329 posts)
10. A great place to start would be enforcing the Sherman Anti-trust act and then bringing back the fairness doctrine.
This would put an end to media outlet consolidation and force licensees to operate in the public interest.
Operating in the public interest would bring about a renaissance in the art of investigative journalism, which is key to unmasking our corporate masters and their (s)elected puppets.

Who gets to decide what is in the public interest? Hmmm?

HoosierCowboy (413 posts)
13. The Main Stream Media in the USA is usually on its deathbed economically. Elections give it a blood transfusion and keep the monster alive. The way to undermine the MSM is to come up with a better way to deliver political messaging to the public.
Howard Dean recognized the weakness of the MSM on a lot of fronts especially the advent of the DVR, which pretty much makes political ads irrelevant for both Parties. From the perspective of the average TV viewer down at the bottom of the informational food chain television is already irrelevant, because the commercials are taking over content to such an extent that there is no more content.
So why does the GOP dump so much money into commercials that are pretty much ignored? One word: influence over an industry that still has contact with that gerrymandered republican out there in the rurals that only has antenna TV. That gerrymandered voter is the guy that will usually push a GOP candidate over the top.

Now that political commercials are ignored, the GOP must start invading content with their message and the MSM is happy to oblige one of their biggest sponsors.

Need some lyrics here:

The Main Stream Media: the BS they're feeding ya

There is always an excuse why the DUmpmonkies fail with their plans. It isn't ever their fault. It is always some VRWC.

mikeysnot (2,516 posts)
16. It starting with Clinton's impeachment and was the final death knell on Bush V Gore... there is no news anymore. What do we do about it, don't watch it.

When people say they are news junkies, I ask them what news? There is no news and then I ask them if they know about, what ever is flying under the radar, and they are clueless. Most people don't know that Fukishima is still spilling toxins into our ocean.

ellennelle (210 posts)
17. FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!

hardly anyone out there knows about this quiet regulation that was in place from the inception of the FCC in 1949, until - yup, you guessed it - the reagan admin, 1987.

he worked tirelessly - correction; his minions worked tirelessly; he was dementing - to be rid of the pesky regulation that required any and all networks that leased airwaves, be they radio or TV, honor the following:

if you accuse or malign any person or group while using national airwaves, you are compelled to give that person or group EQUAL TIME on your network in the same time slot.

many out there likely have no idea where that phrase equal time came from, or even ever heard of it.

however, it marked the meteoric rise of relentless hate-filled screeds - replete with shock jocks and faux snewz, and now the net - and the death-spiral plummet of news quality since.

the only alternative, when you add up all the other alternatives to the one and only fox, those alternatives get closer to 57% of the market. that's always been the case, but this comparison is never presented. now, tho o'really is enjoying increases in his audience share with this scandal (rubberneckers for the train wreck??), fox overall has been on a downhill slope as their audience dies off. we have to do better than outliving them, tho; dangers are immediate.]

if you don't think this simple little fairness doctrine rule had any such power, consider two things. first, note that, right after obama won in 08, the conservative chatter was all abuzz with the fear the rule would be reinstated. seriously; not many folks were watching for this, but i was, and it struck me as a clear indication that these folks very consciously know of this power, and deliberately rely on it for their propaganda. of course they would.

second, just think about what it would mean to have the fairness doctrine in place again. any time any of these blithering, bullying buffoons made one of their absurd, inflammatory, and/or erroneous remarks - be it hannity, o'really, savage, beck, you name it - they would be required to allow the target of said remarks to have equal time to defend themselves and rebut. seriously; think about how much hot air would be released from that insidious balloon.

and think about how much this powerful yet unassuming rule - embodying a simple courtesy that promotes civilized discourse; who would resist that? (i know; FREEDUMB!!) - would have the most profound and real trickle down effect. these freaks would no longer be able to get away with sliming obama, liberals, blacks, immigrants, the poorz, unions, or the educated; they could no long get away with the lies about banks or voter suppression or the US military or 'intelligence' or climate change. at least, not without open, uninterrupted pushback from those they target.

ben franklin had it right when he recognized that an informed public would make the best decisions for the country. but without the fairness doctrine in place - replaced by propaganda - we are no longer informed, but brainwashed.

If we could just silence all the right wing commentary we could be in charge!!!!!!! [/DU]

[txradioguy]

rainy (4,535 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026347416

We have got to find a way to go after the press!

We need to come up with a great plan using social media, banners, flash mobs, leaflets whatever it takes to put an end to this media bias and that is what it is. They are biased to the monied and powerful republicans.

FREE SPEECH MUST DIE!!!




 

You mouth breathing ritalin chewing cretins are all for the freedom of the press when it aids and abets our enemies...but the minute someone voices an opinion that counters your propaganda bullshit...you're ready to shred the Constitution in the name of protecting your Utopian dream.


Your pointy little heads would explode if a Conservative went on TV and said that "someone needs to go after MSNBC or CNN or the NY TImes for the lies they've told and the harm they've done to the country".

[DumbAss Tanker]

Where do they get their news? DU and Comedy Central.
 

They must have had a rough time last night, then.  I gather Stewart brought up some of the Democrat travels overseas to undermine Republican Presidents, notably San Fran Nan meeting with Bashir Assad and Feinswine's defense of what a great thing it was to go around the President...when HER side was doing it. 

[txradioguy]

They must have had a rough time last night, then.  I gather Stewart brought up some of the Democrat travels overseas to undermine Republican Presidents, notably San Fran Nan meeting with Bashir Assad and Feinswine's defense of what a great thing it was to go around the President...when HER side was doing it.

Wasn't that back when dissent was Patriotic?   

[DLR Pyro]

Wasn't that back when dissent was Patriotic?   

dissent and patriotism is seasonal depending on whether a "D" or an "R" is in office.

[SVPete]

Day-Yum! If they're this riled up with The Chill's self-inflicted troubles as a big part of the context, what kind of fits are they going to throw if the MSM's 2016 debate "moderators" ask the D candidates anything more challenging than whether they prefer kitties or puppies?!

OTOH, if this kind of tantrumming becomes common among Libs and Progs, it could have entertaining effects on the MSM.

[67 Rover]

Ilsa (35,618 posts)
4. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

Notify the tv news outlets that they are boycotted until they pressure Congress to bring it back.

It won't fix everything, but it's a good start.

Trying to imagine what a boycott of MessNBC would look like.  I would imagine it is like trying to divide by 0. 

[txradioguy]

Yeah Ilsa bring back the Fairness Doctrine...lets see how Rachel Maddow holds up with Andrew Wilkow providing balance.

Or better yet let's have Rush on immediately after Tingles goes on one of his wild eyed rants.

Be careful what you wish for...

[obumazombie]

I can't wait until they get control of Al Jazeera, and Al Arabia.
They might have to sift through some subterfuge to get there...

"Muslims are not only allowed - but commanded to lie to Khafirs (non-muslims) through Taqiya and Kitman, so I wouldn't take anything their propagandists say at face value."

[98ZJUSMC]

Fred Sanders (11,162 posts)
8. What? That is not the question, new poster! That is an example of the deflection. "D" for effort.

Fred.  Stalwart retarded defender of  the faith.  Actually, it's a pretty good question, numbnutz.

[98ZJUSMC]

Trying to imagine what a boycott of MessNBC would look like.  I would imagine it is like trying to divide by 0. 

  Forcing MSLSD to bring in ACTUAL Conservative rebuttal would quadruple its ratings overnight.

...and make for funny YouTubes.

[HawkHogan]

Why do Dummies think the media is conservative?  Are they that Far Left that they don't think liberals are Left enough for them?

[SVPete]

Why do Dummies think the media is conservative?  Are they that Far Left that they don't think liberals are Left enough for them?

They demand the MSM be Pravda-esque Party-Line Parrots or be objects of (impotent) wrath.

[Undies]

Like I've said about a thousand times:  The DUmmie goons have no idea what a nightmare the "Fairness Doctrine" would be for them.

This isn't 1979.  We are not stuck with NYT, PBS, ABC, CBS, and NBC being the only delivery sources of what the left wants the "news" to be.  Imagine Sarah Palin delivering the rebuttal to every word spoken or every "fact" reported in the MSM.

The political right and the political left in this nation look at the Fairness Doctrine in two similar ways.  The left wants the Fairness Doctrine in order to silence the truth and promote the only thing that keeps their ideology alive:  lies and distortions of the truth.  The right want the Fairness Doctrine to remain dead for the same reasons.   

[jukin]

Fascist gots to fascist.

[obumazombie]

Fascist gots to fascist.

Fascists with fasciitis.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"One word: influence over an industry that still has contact with that gerrymandered republican out there in the rurals that only has antenna TV."
That's 22 words, DUm- DUm. He could have just said "Influence," then in the next sentence elaborated on what he meant. Still a lame and nonsensical point, but at least he'd look like slightly less of an idiot that way.

Of course they love the idea of reinstating the Fairness Doctrine, to silence those views that they disagree with on the grounds that stations who refuse to give equal time to all alternative views will be shut down.
Then, when all the political pundits who disagree with them have been silenced, they'll next target Christian radio stations. For every minute one of those stations spends talking about Jesus or quoting the Bible, they'll have to give equal time to Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Satanists, etc., or else be shut down.

[Big Dog]

[Big Dog]

Fascists with fasciitis.

Maybe that's Steve Dawes' mystery ailment.