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Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« on: December 10, 2014, 02:54:46 PM »
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Washington (CNN) -- The CIA's harsh interrogations of terrorist detainees during the Bush era didn't work, were more brutal than previously revealed and delivered no "ticking time bomb" information that prevented an attack, according to an explosive Senate report released Tuesday.
 
The majority report issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee is a damning condemnation of the tactics -- branded by critics as torture -- the George W. Bush administration deployed in the fear-laden days after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The techniques, according to the report, were "deeply flawed," poorly managed and often resulted in "fabricated" information.
 
The long-delayed study, distilled from more than six million CIA documents, also says the agency consistently misled Congress and the Bush White House about the harsh methods it used and the results it obtained from interrogating al Qaeda suspects.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/09/politics/cia-torture-report/index.html

Apparently, the Democrats think we should interrogate those who have sworn to destroy the US and kill our people anywhere in the world like this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY[/youtube]

In the meantime, they think that the Tea Party and other political opponents should be treated like this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3U83QLoATU[/youtube]

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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 03:05:37 PM »
This was an incompetent report.  Strictly political.

Waterboarding isn't torture.  Ask a terrorist if he would like to be waterboarded by Bush and put into Gitmo, or get a hellfire missile up his ass delivered by Obama's drones.

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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 03:46:31 PM »
This was an incompetent report.  Strictly political.

Waterboarding isn't torture.  Ask a terrorist if he would like to be waterboarded by Bush and put into Gitmo, or get a hellfire missile up his ass delivered by Obama's drones.

They didn't interview anyone involved, only opponents of the program. 

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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 04:52:00 PM »
This was an incompetent report.  Strictly political.

Waterboarding isn't torture.  Ask a terrorist if he would like to be waterboarded by Bush and put into Gitmo, or get a hellfire missile up his ass delivered by Obama's drones.
If water boarding is torture then all the people who have been to the same military schools I have been to were tortured. The libs haven't seemed to notice that little inconsistency in their logic yet.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2014, 12:52:49 AM »
They didn't interview anyone involved, only opponents of the program.

More to the point, for all of their accusations and bomb-throwing assertions, NOT ONE SINGLE CORRECTIVE ACTION was discussed or recommended.  This makes the report nothing more than a political hatchet piece.

But then, what else would one expect from DiFi?
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2014, 12:40:29 PM »
More to the point, for all of their accusations and bomb-throwing assertions, NOT ONE SINGLE CORRECTIVE ACTION was discussed or recommended.  This makes the report nothing more than a political hatchet piece.

But then, what else would one expect from DiFi?

It would be funny if the new senate released a similar scathing report on Obama killing innocent people with drones, or his killing American citizens in other countries without trial.

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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 01:13:28 PM »
OK,OK, next time we keel haul them under an aircraft carrier.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 01:46:41 PM »
Any report that's 6,000 pages long isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Sorta like Obamacare.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 01:55:50 PM »
I joined the USAF in April, 1958. The Korean War, and the methods used by the Chinese and North Koreans on POWs, was still fresh in the minds of the US military.

Part of our training consisted exposure to, and resistance of, these techniques. It could get brutal.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2014, 03:55:32 PM »
This "Senate report" was just propaganda put out by the Democrats to take the attention off of Gruber and amnesty. This was successful with the far-left but that's about it.

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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2014, 04:03:22 PM »
Well, when Feinstein decides to release the executive summary (480 pages) of that 6,000 page report, you know she's scrambling to salvage what's left of her ****ing party.

There are a few nutcases still left in Congress and she's one of them.

Another nutcase is Juan McLame. That asshole just can't help but look like a ****ing moron.

When an executive summary runs longer than two pages, you know it's a pile of shit.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2014, 06:14:19 PM »
Well, when Feinstein decides to release the executive summary (480 pages) of that 6,000 page report, you know she's scrambling to salvage what's left of her ****ing party.

There are a few nutcases still left in Congress and she's one of them.

Another nutcase is Juan McLame. That asshole just can't help but look like a ****ing moron.

When an executive summary runs longer than two pages, you know it's a pile of shit.

John had to endure some of the worst torture in the Hanoi Hilton. I give him a pass on a lot of his shenanigans when it comes to his stance on opposing torture. But I would like him to come out and say the Viet Cong, NVA, Cambodians, Khmer Rouge, and all the rest of the far east dominated peoples under the control of communists from China were torturers and human rights violators of the worst kind.
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Re: Senate report: CIA misled public on torture
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2014, 07:05:54 PM »
Any report that's 6,000 pages long isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Sorta like Obamacare.

Exactly.

Anybody that needs 6,000 pages to report something out doing so in order to "baffle them with bullshit", because "dazzling them with brilliance" is just that far out of reach.
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