the big guy from Bellevue, Skippy, discuss recycling wastewater

[franksolich]

http://election.democraticunderground.com/1014947250

Oh my.

Omaha Steve (44,200 posts)   Wed Nov 19, 2014, 12:14 AM   

San Diego advances plan to recycle wastewater

SAN DIEGO (AP) — The San Diego City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to advance a $2.5-billion plan to reuse wastewater for drinking, the latest example of how California cities are looking for new supplies amid a severe drought.
 
The plan calls to initially recycle 15 million gallons by 2023 and 83 million gallons a day by 2035, about one-third of the city's water supply. It enjoys broad support from Mayor Kevin Faulconer, business groups and environmental advocates.
 
The Orange County Water District, which serves 2.4 million people in California, plans to boost production of recycled water next year from 70 million gallons to 100 million gallons a day. It has reused wastewater for drinking since 2008 through treatment that includes sending water through ground basins.
 
The Santa Clara Valley Water District, which serves 1.8 million people in the San Francisco Bay area, decided in September to pursue construction of facilities that it says could lead to turning wastewater into drinking water for Sunnyvale and western Santa Clara County.
 
FULL story at link.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141119/us-recycled-water-27fa42076c.html

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Would it be cheaper to build an ocean water to drinking water plant?

NYC_SKP (62,981 posts)    Wed Nov 19, 2014, 12:30 AM

3. NO NO NO NO, Desalination plants are NOT the answer, Omaha Steve.

I can see it's going to be an uphill battle.

Reprocessing waste water is THE RIGHT THING TO DO!

It prevents foul water from going into the environment and it's energy efficient, some water treatment plants even GENERATE energy.
 
Desalination plants, on the other hand, USE TONS OF ELECTRICITY.

I just came back from a trip to one, to the Poseidon Desalination Plant in Carlsbad.
 
At a cost of $1,000,000,000, or one BILLION, it will use tons of electricity, I don't have the figures handy but it's built right next door to a POWER PLANT for a reason.
 
Now we are down one Nuke plant in this state and people living where there is no natural water and have to buy it from up north want to start using natural gas to make electricity so they can continue to water their ****ing lawns and golf courses and take long showers and wash their cars.
 
No, reprocessing water is the right thing to do.

And desal plants are going to promote less conservation and more growth, growth that we can't afford to allow.

[JohnnyReb]

Well, they could turn Muslim and drink pregnant she camel piss.

[franksolich]

I just noticed something Skippy said:

.....And desal plants are going to promote less conservation and more growth, growth that we can't afford to allow.

I take it then that Skippy's anti-immigrant?

[Chris_]

That's the same thing Obama said when he went to Africa. 

[GOBUCKS]

The big dying guy spent twenty years riding that little catbird seat, back and forth over the huge incoming raw sewage vat at the Omaha treatment plant.

His job was to fish used condoms out of the incoming sewage using a long pole with a hook at the end.

He was a key man.

Any mistakes by the big dying guy, and the purification equipment would become jammed with condoms, the vat would overflow, and the Missouri River would run speckled with used rubbers and untreated sewage.

The big dying guy knows raw sewage up close and personal, in vast quantities.

Skippy's experience is limited to a toilet bowl.

I'll trust the big dying guy on this one.

[tanstaafl]

Desalination Plant water is seldom, if at all, potable.

[DefiantSix]

Desalination Plant water is seldom, if at all, potable.

IIRC, Israel uses a lot of it, but strictly for crop irrigation.Not necessarily a bad thing for Califunny, if they could ever stop shooting themselves in the foot long enough to implement it.

[tanstaafl]

IIRC, Israel uses a lot of it, but strictly for crop irrigation.Not necessarily a bad thing for Califunny, if they could ever stop shooting themselves in the foot long enough to implement it.

I first ran into desal system water over in Saudi Arabia. There are dozens of them along their coasts. Where I was working, they used it strictly for irrigating the plants in the highway medians.

[Dori]

I first ran into desal system water over in Saudi Arabia. There are dozens of them along their coasts. Where I was working, they used it strictly for irrigating the plants in the highway medians.

San Diego has a huge agriculture economy and a big ocean.

[franksolich]

San Diego has a huge agriculture economy and a big ocean.

But they'd have to use a lot of that desalinated water to wash off nadin.

[Dori]

But they'd have to use a lot of that desalinated water to wash off nadin.

Nah....she would be happier with the salty stuff. 

[BlueStateSaint]

Nah....she would be happier with the salty stuff. 

Why did you have to pull ol' Dougie into this?

[wasp69]

Desalination Plant water is seldom, if at all, potable.

Oh, I dunno about that.  The Navy does it very well, and without having to use "TONS OF ELECTRICITY".

However, reclaiming waste water can be used for things other than "drinking water":  Flushing, irrigation, clothes washing, etc.  It's not that difficult, the technology already exists, but getting the envirotwats to do anything other than play politics with permits is something else altogether.

[JohnnyReb]

Water shortage Solution for California: Don't try to grow a jungle in the desert.

[thundley4]

Oh, I dunno about that.  The Navy does it very well, and without having to use "TONS OF ELECTRICITY".

However, reclaiming waste water can be used for things other than "drinking water":  Flushing, irrigation, clothes washing, etc.  It's not that difficult, the technology already exists, but getting the envirotwats to do anything other than play politics with permits is something else altogether.

We had two evaporators, that produced enough water for 100+ crew.

[wasp69]

We had two evaporators, that produced enough water for 100+ crew.

No more need for evaps in the reverse osmosis age.  Water hours became a thing of the past when ROs were installed.

[DumbAss Tanker]

One of my sandland deployments had water strictly from an RO plant (Right on the ocean, couldn't drill a well that would bring up anything but brackish water).  It was better than a lot of city water I've had over the years.