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primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« on: November 13, 2014, 02:52:38 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251386405

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kairos12 (1,956 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:06 AM

Democratic Senator Won't Stand for Obstruction in the Senate by Democrats

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-manchin-block-gop-agenda-bs

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Manchin: I Won't Put Up With 'Bulls**t' If Dems Try To Obstruct GOP

Excuse me while I do my morning stretch and retch.

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djean111 (4,444 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:14 AM

1. Tell me again why we should always vote for the "D".

All we are doing is hastening the rout of liberals from the New Democratic Party. Which is the object, I think.

When someone can say "the liberal wing of the Democratic Party", seems obvious.

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Recursion (35,121 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:14 AM

14. Because his vote decides committee assignments and majorities and breaks filibusters

I'm not sure why DU has such trouble grasping that.

<<<not sure why ideological purists on this side have a problem grasping this, myself.

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avebury (5,478 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:33 AM

2. Typical. If the Democratic Party does not learn

to "grow a pair" within the next two years I see no reason to come out and vote in 2016. If I had an Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders I would be out there to vote but I am at the point where I refuse to vote for DINOs anymore. I am ready for a new, more progressive party and that is just not the Democratic Party.

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Demsrule86 (109 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:54 AM

3. courts

vote for the courts...no matter how liberal the party becomes if we have conservatives on the court for the next thirty years it won't matter.

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avebury (5,478 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:26 AM

4. As long as the Republicans control Congress

there is no chance of getting more progressive liberals on the bench. We have already seen that.

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rtracey (647 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:53 AM

6. Just the senate

Just the Senate, and it is NOT that far out of reach. I will predict 2 years of do nothing but attempt to undermine ACA and cut social security and medicare, and the country will not stand for it. Democrats will learn over this and the Senate and Whitehouse will be Democratic controlled in 2016.

^^^there it is, folks; the first primitive prediction for the 2016 elections.

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avebury (5,478 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:16 AM

16. Obama has not been able to make all the court

appointments that he has wanted to so having a Democrat in the WH does not guarantee that we can get Progressives on the bench.
 
The big problem is that the Democrats continue to roll over for the Republicans in Congress. Until that stops, Republicans and Tea Party hacks will continue to run everything either directly or by obstruction. I just don't see the Democrats growing a spine and standing up to the school yard bullies.

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Arneoker (138 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:59 AM

15. Gee, you're disappointed!

What news! Guess what, there are many non-indulgent who get no warm fuzzies in voting for less than great Democrats, but they do so because it makes a difference regardless. Don't like that? Poor you! Really don't like that? Then get off your butt and get involved! Check out your local Democratic committee and see what you can do to promote people who are more progressive and who can win elections! (Because winning elections is what you need to do to, you know, actually have an effect on things, as opposed to getting that precious warm fuzzy.)
 
Or just indulge yourself, vote for some dumb third party, and be useless.

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enough (7,977 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:59 AM

5. We've got to stop thinking of the Democratic Party as a real thing.

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belzabubba333 (481 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:08 AM

7. any reason why we should give a sht about what baron machin has to say

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Blue Idaho (1,922 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:52 AM

8. Punk Ass Traitor.

With Democrats like this - who needs Republicans?

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EEO (822 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:12 PM

9. THIS is the problem with moving political discord to the right.

People like this asshole run as Democrats and are moderate Republicans.

Oh, and Democrats are pussies. They work with these asshole Republicans when the GOP tells the Dems to go **** themselves whenever the GOP is the minority party. Pathetic.

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Cal33 (4,557 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:30 PM

10. It depends on what kinds of legislation Manchin and McCaskill would support. Would they support

the repealing of Obama's health care bill? If so our nation would return to having 47,000 unnecessary deaths per year of Americans, because they couldn't afford medical treatment. This is indirect murder -- but it's murder, nonetheless. Would these senators, do this just for the sake of "getting something done?"

I doubt it. It's too horrible to contemplate. But I can also hardly expect that the Conservatives would now turn around and start to legislate for the benefit of all the American people. Don't expect psychopaths to change. They can't, and won't.

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blkmusclmachine (12,701 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 04:41 PM

11. Another phony DINO working for the GOP. Just like NY Governor Cuomo ("D").

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Cal33 (4,557 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 05:24 PM

12. As far as I can remember, his father was a genuine Democrat. How come he's so different?

And Ron Reagan, the son of the Republican president, is a Progressive!

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smorkingapple (724 posts)    Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:30 PM

13. This is why it sucks to be better than the R's

We should play their game but we're better than that.

It burns me too but obstructing just to show that government doesn't work is their game not ours.

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ImaPolitico (2 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:28 PM

17. Dems Warn GOP Against Threatening Obama on Immigration House Democrats say the president should move

Sorry, but I am new here. Just learning the ropes.

It's about time, Dems start sticking up for the president!

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/11/12/dems-warn-gop-against-threatening-obama-on-immigration?int=995508
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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 02:58:28 PM »
I've seen some rumors that Manchin could switch parties.  :rofl:

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 03:17:05 PM »
These threads are hilarious.  It was a mere couple of months ago, or so, they were saying the Republican party was DEAD.  It doesn't appear to have happened the way they imagined.

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 03:50:22 PM »
I've seen some rumors that Manchin could switch parties.

He'd be a left-wing oddball in the repuke party.

He's strongly pro-2nd Amendment and pro-coal, and sees "clean energy" for the scam it is, but in WV to do otherwise is a political death sentence.

But, he refuses to discuss amnesty, wants 0bamacare expanded, is pro-affirmative action, and constantly spouts the democrat "tax the rich" bullshit.

He also signed on with the teachers' unions to fight against school vouchers.

He's a slimy con man but we'll be happy to count his vote.

I think he'll stay democrat, because when his Senate term expires in 2018 he wants to run for governor again, and WV is swarming with people who are looking for any excuse to vote democrat.

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 03:57:06 PM »
WV is swarming with people who are looking for any excuse to vote democrat.

How do you figure that?
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 04:12:13 PM »
How do you figure that?
Four of the last five governors have been democrat.

Most statewide offices are democrat.

State Senate just flipped to Republican only because a democrat changed parties.

In WV, voters must register by party ("no party", paulbot, and "other" are options), 50% are democrat, 28% are Republican.

From birth we're taught that everyone would have literally starved without FDR, the New Deal, and the democrat party.


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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 04:21:01 PM »
Four of the last five governors have been democrat.

Most statewide offices are democrat.

State Senate just flipped to Republican only because a democrat changed parties.

In WV, voters must register by party ("no party", paulbot, and "other" are options), 50% are democrat, 28% are Republican.

From birth we're taught that everyone would have literally starved without FDR, the New Deal, and the democrat party.

Until recently, a West Virginia democrat was a bit different from the national democrats - especially at the state level.  While the state level offices have been "democrat" in name, they have not given their 5 electoral votes to a democrat presidential candidate since 1996.

Doesn't sound like they're "looking for any excuse to vote democrat" to me.
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

John C Calhoun, "Disquisition on Government", 1840

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2014, 04:34:33 PM »
Doesn't sound like they're "looking for any excuse to vote democrat" to me.

They vote democrat for everything except President, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Hildebeast carried the state.

Then they're dumb enough to send con men like Rahall, Rockefeller, and Manchin to Washington, where these good ol' boys vote with Pelosi, Reid, and 0bama 90+% of the time.

A democrat politician from West Virginia is the same breed of vermin as a democrat from Detroit or California.

West Virginia voters are just too dumb to realize it.

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2014, 05:52:57 PM »
They vote democrat for everything except President, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Hildebeast carried the state.

Because democrat presidential candidates have done so well there in the past 18 years... 

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Then they're dumb enough to send con men like Rahall

Bounced from an office he held for 38 years.

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Rockefeller

Quit before he could get his ass drubbed by a woman.

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and Manchin

Who's come out saying he'll fight against democrats who try to obstruct the GOP Senate majority.

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West Virginia voters are just too dumb to realize it.

Wait a minute, hasn't West Virginia gone red?
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

C.S. Lewis

A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

John C Calhoun, "Disquisition on Government", 1840

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 07:40:34 PM »
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Wait a minute, hasn't West Virginia gone red?

It has gone red only because no one but Manchin has given them an excuse to vote democrat.

Outside of gun control and coal, Manchin votes no different from Chuck Schumer or Harry Reid.

Nick Joe lost because of the overwhelming revulsion every normal person feels toward our jug-eared president, and Nick had never before in his entire career had to campaign for office.

In the heart of the most depressed, desperately impoverished counties in the country, McDowell, Mingo, Logan, Boone, etc., people still declare themselves to be democrat by a near ten to one margin. Ten to one.

They live in Byrd trailers, go to the Byrd community center, and drive on the Byrd highway across the Byrd bridge.

They draw benefits from the Byrd disability industry.

The rest of the state is registered heavily democrat as well.

All they need is a snake oil shyster like Manchin who claims to be a different democrat and he'll still win a landslide.

As a senator, he's now campaigning for governor, and will come home to run as a democrat in 2018, when he'll probably carry 70% of the vote.

If democrats ever stop shooting themselves in the foot with coal and gun control, WV will be back in the blue column.

Luckily that's very unlikely to happen.

 

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 10:23:05 PM »
Just wanted to say to GOBUCKS that my daughter is a junior at WVU, and loves it there!

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 10:35:47 PM »

Is there an off chance that WV's party registration is like that of NC, where there are a ton more registered DUmbasses, because many never bothered to switch their party affiliation?*


*disclaimer:  I know nothing about WV or NC state politics

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 10:36:44 PM »
Just wanted to say to GOBUCKS that my daughter is a junior at WVU, and loves it there!

It's a great campus and school, but until I-79 opened in the late '70s Morgantown was a remote location, very difficult to reach from most of the state.

Growing up, I don't remember ever hearing of anyone who had even been to Morgantown.

We always considered WVU to be a Pittsburgh school, hours and hours of hard driving on winding two-lane roads.

It was far easier to travel to Cincinnati, Columbus, or Lexington.

Marshall was the only school that felt like West Virginia.

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 10:43:08 PM »
It has gone red only because...

Considering they've consistently voted not democrat (even voted for piece of shit liberal McCain) since 2000, and have overwhelmingly sent career leach Rahall home, I think they may be smarter than you give them credit for.
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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John C Calhoun, "Disquisition on Government", 1840

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 10:43:59 PM »
Is there an off chance that WV's party registration is like that of NC, where there are a ton more registered DUmbasses, because many never bothered to switch their party affiliation?*


*disclaimer:  I know nothing about WV or NC state politics

Quite a few.
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

C.S. Lewis

A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

John C Calhoun, "Disquisition on Government", 1840

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 10:57:55 PM »
That's Robert Byrd country !
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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 11:19:55 PM »
That's Robert Byrd country !

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Re: primitives bash (D) senator from West Virginia
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 11:23:05 PM »
^Good stuff BH !
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