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Offline franksolich

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primitives discuss rigging the Electoral College
« on: November 13, 2014, 06:19:16 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025813095

Oh my.

Few things more clearly demonstrate the ignorance of the primitives than this thread:

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demmiblue (5,757 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:03 PM

Michigan Lawmaker Poised To Resurrect Plan That Could Rig The Electoral College For Republicans

Michigan’s legislative session is almost over, but an outgoing state lawmaker may still revive a voting bill that could rig the electoral college for Republicans.
 
Rep. Pete Lund (R) told Bridge Magazine that he plans to introduce a bill during the lame-duck session that would change the way electoral votes are counted. The new plan would make it more likely that a Republican could win the presidency, even though, as Bridge reports, “overall state voting patterns trend Democratic.” Twice before, Lund introduced bills that would achieve the Republican skew by changing how the electoral college works. Rather than having all 16 of the state’s electoral votes for president go to the candidate who gets the most state votes, as the system does now, the these proposals would give each congressional district one presidential vote, plus two extras for the winner.
 
The problem, as Bridge explains, is that “(b)ecause of the way the state’s congressional districts are drawn, Republicans dominate the vast majority of districts” despite state voting patterns that favor Democrats. In other words, the plan would magnify the impact of congressional gerrymandering designed to maximize Republican wins in Congress so that it would also shift the outcome of the presidential election.
 
This isn’t just a Michigan initiative. Over the past few years, several Republican lawmakers have coordinated behind a plan that would rig the Electoral College by shifting to plans like Michigan’s in several key blue states, while maintaining the current rules in red states.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/13/3592146/michigan-lawmaker-poised-to-resurrect-plan-that-could-rig-the-electoral-college-for-republicans/

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SickOfTheOnePct (2,109 posts)    Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:18 PM

4. Betting we'll see a few states try this

Duh.

Two states already do this, Maine and Nebraska.

I dunno what the effect has been on Maine, but here in Nebraska, it's helped the Democrats.
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Re: primitives discuss rigging the Electoral College
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 06:23:19 PM »
But the popular vote scheme California floated last year is just fine with DU.

Wouldn't expect anything less from them.
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Re: primitives discuss rigging the Electoral College
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 06:37:21 PM »
Any plan like what Michigan is suggesting should scare the shit out of the primitives.  They know exactly what it means. 


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Re: primitives discuss rigging the Electoral College
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 11:05:27 PM »
We would lose electoral votes in nearly every red state, where 0bamaites are given a few urban districts by court decisions.

We would gain a few votes in most blue states.

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Re: primitives discuss rigging the Electoral College
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 11:16:00 PM »
We would lose electoral votes in nearly every red state, where 0bamaites are given a few urban districts by court decisions.

We would gain a few votes in most blue states.

The net gain would be to the Republicans, though. 

interactive map:

http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-elections-by-congressional-district-interactive-130828943.html


2012 discussion:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337076/how-romney-could-have-won-katrina-trinko


I don't see blue states ever doing this, as they realize it would wrest control of the EVs in rural areas away from the urban districts.