newbie primitive disputes a jury

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12569362

Oh my.

Centrist1984 (30 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:15 AM

Anyway to dispute a jury?

Hello all. I am new here. I posted in a thread and a jury voted 6-1 to ban me from the thread and block the post. According to the one juror, the reason they gave is that I am a "TROLL." Another said my post was suspicious due to the low post count. While people may disagree with what I wrote, I feel bad about this as the last thing I am trying to be is any troll.
 
I think I understand the low post count view and troll claim though because my account was created quite a number of months ago (maybe over a year ago even). But then I never posted. I had posted once, but then got in trouble as the post wasn't permitted where I had made it, so a moderator quickly punished me. However I decided to start contributing yesterday. To a mod thus I suppose I look like a troll or suspicious because of having been a member for awhile with a low post count right now.
 
My question is, is there anyway to dispute the jury, like try to change their minds?

Lil Missy (14,292 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:19 AM

1. No.

valerief (41,842 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:19 AM

2. I saw that post. I think I'll put you on Ignore now for it.

Centrist1984 (30 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:26 AM

3. How can I learn?

No way to learn how my view on that is wrong if people seek to deny any debate on the issue.

NYC_SKP (62,038 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:29 AM

5. Send me a link to your hidden post and I'll be happy to tell you why it was probbly hidden.

Welcome to DU.

^^^Skippy.

Centrist1984 (30 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:36 AM

6. Can't do private messages right now

I don't have enough posts to do private messages yet. Here is a link to the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5641309
 
The thread claims another man was murdered by the Ferguson police. I wrote that I don't know if I'd use that word as, in reference to Michael Brown, we don't know for sure whether he was murdered.

NYC_SKP (62,038 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:47 AM

8. I disagree with the jury.

But I'm not surprised because you made the mistake of taking the reasonable position of admitting that you weren't there and the facts are still, for the most part, in question and need to be investigated and taken to a court.
 
What's more, you openly disagreed with a bunch of people who don't want to allow others to offer reasonable counterpoints, and your low post count might make people think you're a disruptor.
 
I wouldn't have hidden it, but I also think this was murder, I don't see much to suggest it wasn't murder or manslaughter.
 
So, in 90 days it will fall off your record.

Centrist1984 (30 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:56 AM

9. Thanks

Thank you for the information/support.

NYC_SKP (62,038 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 01:05 AM

10. Unfortunately, online communities have two main problems:

One is when members won't give another member the benefit of the doubt, they don't know you or what your exposure to the story is.
 
The second problem is related, some people have read multiple accounts and watched videos and have been exposed to a lot of data and they ASSUME that others must have seen all the same material.
 
The truth, however, might be very different. I had three jobs for a while and traveled a lot, didn't have much time to research. Other people might be in a workplace with nothing but Fox news on the time.
 
The point being that jurors and members should offer mature arguments and not just alert because they disagree with you.
 
You broke no rule with that reply, not a one, and I should know, I was a DU moderator for years.

NYC_SKP This message was self-deleted by its author.

NYC_SKP (62,038 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:28 AM

4. No way to contest it, just roll with it. And, it was a jury of ordinary members, not a moderator.

And to be honest, there are some rough jurors out there.

Jurors are anonymous, there is no way to challenge them.

Okay now, we know this is just so much bullshit on Skippy's part; he's trying to appear a reasonable person, but he isn't.  He's the furthest "left" of the primitives, whose heroes include William "25 Million Dead" Ayers, Pol Pot, Kim Jung-on, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Mao Tse-tung, Saddam Hussein, and other genocidal mass-murderers.

Actually, what Skippy really thinks is that twelve or twenty-five white people need shot--as long as one of them's not him--to avenge this death of a black man.

Skippy's not fooling anybody.

[HawkHogan]

Aww.  The poor Dummy made the mistake of questioning the lynch mob. 

[DefiantSix]

That'll teach 'im to offer reasoned, thoughtful comments to the inmates of Skinner's Insane Asylum.

[Mr Mannn]

Centrist1984 (30 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:26 AM

3. How can I learn?

No way to learn how my view on that is wrong if people seek to deny any debate on the issue.

DU in a nutshell.

[franksolich]

ZombieHorde (27,491 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:04 AM

11. I love DU, but there are quirks you have to be cool with.

1. If you have a low post count, some people will think poorly of you. The reason is so many people join DU just to troll for a while. Unfortunately, this means lots and lots of honest, new posters are mistreated. Don't post anything controversial if your post count is below 100.
 
2. There are some issues that many people are very emotional about, such as pedophilia. You will piss people off very much if you post anything against the social script in place on these subjects. Read the posts in a thread and see how upset the posters are. If they are very upset, then be careful. Be aware and beware.

3. Many of us are distracted, intoxicated, tired, etc., while reading DU. Some readers will misinterpret your post. I like to think this is almost always an honest mistake. There is not much you can do about this, unless you can predict how your post will be misinterpreted, and address that interpretation.
 
4. Here is some good news. If someone puts you on ignore you can still read their posts, but they cannot read your posts. You can alert on their posts, but they cannot alert on your posts. You can serve on their juries, unless they also added you to their jury blacklist, but they cannot serve on your juries. Having a few hot heads put you on ignore benefits you. It's an advantage. Once certain people have placed you on ignore, you can be free to piss off whomever with your insistence of evidence or an unpopular view of a social situation without any real consequences. You want certain posters to put you on ignore, and certain posters will want to put you on ignore, so it's a mutually beneficial situation.

[tanstaafl]

ZombieHorde (27,491 posts)    Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:04 AM

11. I love DU, but there are quirks you have to be cool with.

2. There are some issues that many people are very emotional about, such as pedophilia. You will piss people off very much if you post anything against the social script in place on these subjects. Read the posts in a thread and see how upset the posters are. If they are very upset, then be careful. Be aware and beware.

Now, why would pedophellia be an issue that bothers the emotions of anyone?

'Cept, maybe other child molesters, like ChesterZombieHorde.

[obumazombie]

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