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Offline franksolich

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primitives wonder why shallots are so expensive
« on: September 19, 2014, 05:23:18 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/115745890

Oh my.

First, this, so we all know what the damned things are:

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The shallot (Allium cepa var. aggregatum, or the A. cepa Aggregatum Group) is a botanical variety of the species Allium cepa, to which the multiplier onion also belongs. The shallot was formerly classified as a separate species, A. ascalonicum, a name now considered a synonym of the currently accepted name. The genus Allium, which includes onions and garlic as well as shallots, is now classified in the plant family Amaryllidaceae, but was formerly considered to belong to the separate family Alliaceae.

If that's not clear enough, apparently a shallot is some sort of physical matter that resembles an onion.

Anyway.

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Seedersandleechers (2,725 posts)    Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:06 PM

Why are shallots so expensive?

$5.95# where I live in the midwest, and it's been expensive for a very long time. I came upon this reply to the question above from yahoo answer and couldn't find any data to back up the notion that growing shallots commercially in the US is illegal.
 
HALFWAY-to-ITALIA answered 5 years ago

Shallots are more expensive than the regular yellow onion because, truthfully, of politics. As you probably know shallots are not grown in the US for a variety of reasons. The first being they simply do not grow too well here. Second, the commercial growing of shallots is prohibited in the US (I will get to this in a minute) And finally, it is much cheaper to import them from other countries.
 
As stated, the commercial growing of shallots is prohibited in the US. This is mostly because of the harmful growing conditions of shallots. When sunlight interacts with the roots of the shallot plant, nitrogen dioxide is released into the air (a very small amount) However, when nitrogen dioxide comes into contact with water, hydrochloric acid is formed, which is very dangerous. Now this does not affect the shallot, but the farmers. The danger that is present in the growing of shallots is enough reason for the US to prohibit commercial growing of shallots and for them to be very expensive. I hope I answered your question!

And by the way you can substitute regular yellow onions with shallots, its completely fine.

Have a great day!

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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090930151637AA1uaLy

So.....just substitute cheap yellow onions.

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LiberalAndProud (11,107 posts)    Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:45 PM

1. Weird.

Dutch Valley Growers sells shallot bulbs in bulk. They must be growing them?

I did find this interesting tidbit though.

http://www.gracelinks.org/blog/3445/real-food-right-now-and-how-to-cook-it-shallots
 
But shallot cultivation is not without controversy. I said that shallots are “frequently” cultivated by planting bulbs from the previous season’s harvest. There are some varieties of shallot, ironically developed by those bulb-growing savants the Dutch, which can be planted by seed (a much cheaper way to grow shallots, because the planting can be fully mechanized).

The controversy here is this: shallot aficionados, led by the French, believe that “true” shallots are those varieties that are only propagated by planting bulbs from the previous season. So-called “false” shallots are those Dutch types that are grown from seed. How do you know if you’re getting a “true” or “false” shallot? As this article explains, “true” (bulb-planted) shallots can be differentiated from “false” (seed-planted) shallots thusly:
 
“Firstly, a bulb-planted shallot will always have a faint circular scar at the root end where it was separated from the parent cluster. Also, when cut in half, a true shallot will always have two cloves or sets of concentric layered scales; a seed-grown shallot has a singular bulb, no secondary clove, and looks very much like a tiny onion globe.”
 
The reality is that most people can’t really differentiate between “true” and “false” shallots, taste wise (although I’m sure that there are many French folks who would disagree).


I also saw that most shallots are imported from France. Who knew?
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Re: primitives wonder why shallots are so expensive
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 08:23:17 PM »
Gosh they sound dangerous.

I bought one once for a recipe and never bought them again.  I didn't get the difference between them and an onion.  I've even used the bulb part of green onions in place of shallots.





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Re: primitives wonder why shallots are so expensive
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 06:54:19 AM »
Maybe those fur'n countries have high minimum wage laws.....pay a living wage ??????????????
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Re: primitives wonder why shallots are so expensive
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 10:09:47 AM »
So ... DU folk want a semi-luxury product whose production harms the environment? :stoner: And they want it to be plenteous and inexpensive? :stoner:

The way to a Progressive's hypocrisy is through their palate?
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Re: primitives wonder why shallots are so expensive
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 11:12:51 AM »
So ... DU folk want a semi-luxury product whose production harms the environment? :stoner: And they want it to be plenteous and inexpensive? :stoner:

The way to a Progressive's hypocrisy is through their palate?

They sure do - commercially grown pot does massive amounts of environmental damage, unlike it's non-stoner cousin hemp.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewv5xeI4uug[/youtube]
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/02/google-earth-tour-marijuana-farms-environment-video

The above video and article are from Mother Jones. Refute that, bitches...


Versus commercial hemp (not pot)

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