Author Topic: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief  (Read 4536 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SSG Snuggle Bunny

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23650
  • Reputation: +2524/-270
  • Voted Rookie-of-the-Year, 3 years running
NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« on: August 18, 2014, 07:33:26 PM »
I have to give a 3 to 7 minute lecture.

Audie Murphy and the usual suspects are done to death. I want to do something unique.

IDEAS! POST THEM NOW!
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 07:44:07 PM »
Marine Gen O. P. Smith and Gen McArthur's hand picked desk jockey Gen at the frozen Chosin.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 07:46:12 PM »
Lord Nelson at Trafalgar.

You wanted something new and different.....
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline SSG Snuggle Bunny

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23650
  • Reputation: +2524/-270
  • Voted Rookie-of-the-Year, 3 years running
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 08:11:09 PM »
Lord Nelson at Trafalgar.

You wanted something new and different.....

Sorry coach. It has to be US.

I originally wanted to do Cornelius Scipio and tie his campaign in Hispania against the Carthaginians to modern counter insurgency operations but the idea was shot down as not US enough.
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

Offline Rick

  • Crazy old man
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 845
  • Reputation: +78/-9
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 08:42:12 PM »
Civil War battles fought in the west - California had two.

Offline J P Sousa

  • We Built Our Business - IN SPITE OF GOVERNMENT
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Reputation: +310/-19
  • I love the smell of gun powder in the morning
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2014, 08:49:43 PM »
Lt. Gen. Lewis Berwell Puller

Quote
  During the Korean War, the Chinese communists had overrun the Yalu River and the Marines battling them were in a running fight to reach the coast. Ten Chinese divisions surrounded Col. Lewis Berwell Puller's 1st Marines. The indomitable "Chesty" Puller saw the situation with his own brand of logic: "Those poor bastards," he said. "They've got us right where we want them. We can fire in any direction now!"

http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=ML_puller_bkp


 
John Wayne: "America Why I Love Her"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5ZGz7h0epU

Get Over It! We Are Not All Created Equal ~Capt Katie Petronio

Obama Wiretapped The Trump Tower...FACT

The reason there are so many stupid people is because it's illegal to kill them.
~John Wayne

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2014, 09:26:02 PM »
Lt. Gen. Lewis Berwell Puller
Chesty gets the credit but if it hadn't been for the level head of O. P. Smith they would have all been lost. U.S. Army General Almond was not suited to command and had Smith followed his orders to the letter, the Marines and Soldiers would have all been lost.

As I remember reading somewhere, "When aggression was required, Almond was aggressive. When caution was required, Almond was aggressive". Had Smith not secured his supply lines and built an airfield, the whole mess would be an entirely different 'sad' story.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2014, 05:23:18 AM »
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.

Offline SSG Snuggle Bunny

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23650
  • Reputation: +2524/-270
  • Voted Rookie-of-the-Year, 3 years running
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2014, 09:52:28 PM »
I've been catching a lot of flak for being the ol' rabbit. Lots of grandpa jokes.

Today we were discussing topics for our history briefs. The running gag was I had been around to see whatever it was I might discuss.

"Hey Sgt. Snuggs, did you storm the beaches of Normandy? Har! Har! Har!"

"No. I was too busy storming your mom."

Little shits.
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

Offline docstew

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4741
  • Reputation: +282/-187
  • My Wife is awesome!
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2014, 05:55:11 AM »
What is the goal of this history lecture? What value are you highlighting?

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2014, 10:39:47 PM »
It does kinda depend on what you want to highlight, but here are some lesser-used topics that would be make a good, short anecdotal sort of class:

"Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance" - The siege of the Chapultepec fortress in the Mexican War, where the 1st Infantry Regiment ran up to the walls in the final assault, and realized they left all the scaling ladders behind in the assault staging area, and had to go back for them and then re-do the assault by escalade...which they ultimately did.

The value of sheer bloody-mindedness and guts in defense, even in a 'Die in Place' situation - The defense of St. Vith in the Battle of the Bulge, which though ultimately falling to the Germans, threw them so far off their timetable that enough forces got into Bastogne to hold it...which would not have happened, but for the sacrifice at St. Vith.

The importance of initiative and momentum in the offensive - The Normandy breakout, aka Operation Cobra, which particularly with regard to the 6th Armored Division and it's companion 8th Infantry Division, was one of the two main US offensives from WW2 Europe that used to be part of the curriculum of C&GS back in the NATO vs. Warsaw Pact days (The other was the Lorraine Campaign, but it was less clearly decisive and a lot more complex, so it wouldn't be too suited for your purpose).
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2835/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline docstew

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4741
  • Reputation: +282/-187
  • My Wife is awesome!

Offline Crazy Horse

  • Army 0 Navy 34
  • Topic Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5604
  • Reputation: +266/-143
  • Sex, Booze and Bacon Minion
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2014, 07:28:45 PM »
1914 Vera Cruz Mexico.
Disclaimer
Any views, remarks or statements of other military services or it’s members is covered under the Inter-Service Rivalry Act of 1974

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2835/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2014, 09:21:29 PM »
I believe he asked for ACTUAL military history, not quasi-military horn blowing...

Nothing "quasi" about that military history. And let there be no doubt--that WAS history. Probably before your time, though.  :-)
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2014, 09:55:06 PM »
Nothing "quasi" about that military history. And let there be no doubt--that WAS history. Probably before your time, though.  :-)

You played the carnyx, right...?
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2835/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 10:56:48 AM »
You played the carnyx, right...?

Nope, that instrument went out when the Carthaginians got their asses kicked. You remember that, dontcha?  :-)
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 12:23:05 PM »
Nope, that instrument went out when the Carthaginians got their asses kicked. You remember that, dontcha?  :-)

You young guys just don't know how it was in the old brown-caligae Army...
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2835/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 01:40:51 PM »
You young guys just don't know how it was in the old brown-caligae Army...

I remember a saxophone player by the name of Russet Brown. He refused to wear corfams because they were the wrong color. Yes, he was a racist.  :lmao:
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline Airwolf

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12177
  • Reputation: +917/-163
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2014, 11:33:14 PM »
How about he Battle of the Hurtgen(?) Forrest it took place just before the Battle of the bulge and got almost no press even though it was just as hard fought.
MOLON LABE

"Someday, when all your civilization and science are likewise swept away, your kind will pray for a man with a sword."-- Conan the Barbarian

Clint Eastwood - Because God wanted Chuck Norris to have nightmares.

"I am not a Number,I am a free man"

"He's my hero, you don't put away your heros, you honor them!"

Offline Alaska Slim

  • Probationary (Probie)
  • Posts: 28
  • Reputation: +0/-2
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2014, 03:44:54 AM »
COL William O. Eareckson? He served in the Aleutian campaign, won every award short of the MOH.

He famously cussed out the Japanese, and was mentioned by Tokyo Rose in name.

After he once took leave in California, his absence was so noticeable that Tokyo Rose announced that he had died. This pissed him off so much that he headed right back to inform her "NOPE, STILL HERE ****"

He was really popular with the men in the theatre, and General Buckner himself considered Eareckson indispensable. One time during an inspection at the front on one of the Aleutian islands, he and Eareckson came under fire. Eareckson grabbed a rifle and exposed himself just long enough to shoot the attacking Jap in the head.

The General right after that pinned a medal to Eareckson's chest, then turned him around and swiftly kicked him in the ass, telling him to "never take a chance like that again".

Offline marv

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2194
  • Reputation: +124/-28
  • Resident Grandpa
Re: NEEDED: Topic for US military history brief
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2014, 08:51:31 AM »
FOUR BOXES KEEP US FREE: THE SOAP BOX, THE BALLOT BOX, THE JURY BOX, AND THE CARTRIDGE BOX.

THIS POST WILL BE MONITORED BY THE NSA