Malaise pissed Ferguson PD releases video. Pissed when they don't.

[dutch508]

malaise (122,418 posts) http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10025395677

WTF - DOJ told Ferguson police not to release that robbery video since the two incidents were not connected. They said it was not a good idea to release this video given the environment.
Oh My!!!

I have no doubt Holder doesn't want the truth out in Ferguson.

justiceischeap (11,148 posts)
1. It'd be nice to know who put in the FOIA for it since the chief stated it was the press that asked for it.

You retards were screaming yesterday PROVE IT!!! Now that they do you claim it is inflammatory.

malaise (122,418 posts)
7. Someone from Fox? This has the smell of ReTHUG operatives.

of course. It's all a VRWC plot to make St. Michael look bad.

Evergreen Emerald (10,394 posts)
2. I agree it should not have been released

It was in response to the community painting him as a gentle young man who was getting ready for college when he was murdered by thugs. The other side responded with a different picture. Each are trying to dehumanize the other.

Neither pictures are relevant to the issue: was he surrendering with his hands in the air when shot? It does not matter what type of person he was, if he was surrendering when shot.

NOW it doesn't matter what type of man he was.

alsame (7,674 posts)
6. They had to release it so that Michael Brown's character could be smeared. He's on trial-by-media now, just like Trayvon was, just like Jordan Davis was, just like Eric Gardner was. And the list goes on and on.

Now all the focus is on the 'robbery', very few are talking about the shooting or the shooter cop.

And it had the added benefit of stirring up more dissent in the Ferguson community after a night of calm.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

I will wait on the tox screen on St. Michael. I got money that he was ****ed the **** up on some illegal substance.

maced666 (276 posts)
26. That was a smear?
The video showed a thug stealing a box of cigars and assaulting the store keeper when he tried to stop him.
If that is smearing, there are 100,000 people behind bars for smearing and should be released today.

easy- the truth doesn't sit well at the DUmp.

Lee-Lee (1,217 posts)
11. DOJ requests or advice can't trump open records laws And having been involved with a few incidents like this, media will drop requests for EVERYTHING that they think could possibly be related.  If you want open records laws you have to accept some stuff gets released you would rather not be.

more truth.

Octafish (40,768 posts)
14. One of DU's best immediately pointed out the dates didn't match.
The robbery video was six weeks ago, going from memory -- can't find the OP and response I read.
Sorry, I can't remember the DUer's handle. Shoulda bookmarked...f'r history.

No. No it wasn't.

LisaL (24,316 posts)
33. One of DU's supposed best looked at the wrong thing while making a claim that the dates didn't match

 

fadedrose (7,615 posts)
18. My response when I saw it..

was a huge "Awwwww, nooooooo." This will make racists happy.

There has to be a grand jury coming out of this soon, and the tape should have been preserved as evidence as to moods and motives....

My impression of it was that it showed a big kid and a buddy, who with all the stuff in the store to steal, picked cigars.

Cigars are traditional to hand out when a baby is born, and I wonder if Michael planned on passing out a few because he was starting college...and he probably was used to guys cringing when he towered over them, and meant no harm. Probably chuckled over it if he's anything like the big guys I remember from long ago who weren't bullies, and just enjoyed their size.

It seems the whole affair was caused by misunderstandings. We need work on communication skills, including me, and maybe some of these horrible things could be avoided...

As to the tape, Holder was right. Too soon and it's evidence.

spin spin spin...

alcibiades_mystery (30,421 posts)
25. Swisher Sweets are a type of cigarillo commonly used to roll marijuana
You take the tobacco out and roll pot in them, "blunt-style."
When I was a kid we used Philly's Blunt cigars, which is where the term "blunt" for marijuana rolled in a cigar comes from. Just as we would refer to "Philly's" (I'm rolling a Philly), the kids today talk about "Swishers."

yup.

wandy (3,184 posts)
51. Don't go giving the smear team any ideas....................

I was wondering how they were going to get drugs involved in this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5392961

I guess I'm just not up on this stuff and still haven't figured out how you make drugs out of Skittles and Ice Tea.
Any bets on which episode will be named "The Swisher Sweets and Marijuana Connection."

I am waiting for the tox screen. When it comes out positive for THC the monkiez will scream "It should be legal anyway!!!"

VA_Jill (428 posts)
53. What I have read in a couple of places is that this can't be Michael Brown because the guy in the video is wearing shorts and flip-flops, and Michael Brown was wearing long pants and sneakers when he was shot. Gee, maybe he had time to run home and change clothes! /snark

Also (and I have not seen a face in the video, but apparently some have), it's been said that the video shows a 30-ish guy with a goatee, and Michael Brown was clean-shaven. So WTF, Chief Jackson?

yeah... I HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO... but...

Travis_0004 (1,633 posts)
66. Anthony Gray, the lawyer for the brown family said it was him.

Johnson, the other guy in the robbery, also admitted it was them in the store.

The DUmp won't give up until there is no defense left...

[ChuckJ]

fadedrose (7,615 posts)
18. My response when I saw it..

was a huge "Awwwww, nooooooo." This will make racists happy.

There has to be a grand jury coming out of this soon, and the tape should have been preserved as evidence as to moods and motives....

My impression of it was that it showed a big kid and a buddy, who with all the stuff in the store to steal, picked cigars.

Cigars are traditional to hand out when a baby is born, and I wonder if Michael planned on passing out a few because he was starting college...and he probably was used to guys cringing when he towered over them, and meant no harm. Probably chuckled over it if he's anything like the big guys I remember from long ago who weren't bullies, and just enjoyed their size.

It seems the whole affair was caused by misunderstandings. We need work on communication skills, including me, and maybe some of these horrible things could be avoided...

As to the tape, Holder was right. Too soon and it's evidence.

I'm sure that's it exactly. God, these people are idiots.

[Delmar]

Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:11 AM
Star Member malaise (122,427 posts)
WTF - DOJ told Ferguson police not to release that robbery video
since the two incidents were not connected. They said it was not a good idea to release this video given the environment.
Oh My!!!

If Eric Holder and his POS used car salesman boss would've kept their fat noses out of it and they wouldn't be looking like such fools now.

Barry needs to exercise better judgement on when to suspend vacation to do his job and when to just go ahead and keep golfing.
From twitter:

Byron York @ByronYork  ·  5h
To those who asked: Yes, Obama was, in fact, on course at Vineyard Golf Club during Gen. Greene's funeral.

https://twitter.com/ByronYork

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/08/guess-who-was-missing-at-funeral-of-highest-ranking-officer-killed-in-combat-since-vietnam-war/

[JohnnyReb]

If Eric Holder and his POS used car salesman boss would've kept their fat noses out of it and they wouldn't be looking like such fools now.

Barry needs to exercise better judgement on when to suspend vacation to do his job and when to just go ahead and keep golfing.
From twitter:https://twitter.com/ByronYork

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/08/guess-who-was-missing-at-funeral-of-highest-ranking-officer-killed-in-combat-since-vietnam-war/

General Greene was just one of the little people.....now, Mike Brown's funeral, well, that's important.

[Linda]

Here is a link that is really gonna piss the DUmmies off, Not sure if it is true or not, but you never know...

http://tavernkeepers.com/witness-michael-brown-bum-rushed-cop/

http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/

[youtube]WzBdY6WXeRE[/youtube]

He pulled up ahead of them. And then he got a call-in that there was a strong-arm robbery. And, they gave a description. And, he’s looking at them and they got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know those cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them. Tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And, then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up. And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and them Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off. Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bum-rushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming.

There is a witness that verifies the account above. A video on YouTube was created by someone at the scene claiming Brown was innocent. However, at around 6:25 in the video you can hear two men discussing what happened in the background.

[youtube]VdL9dqkyjhM[/youtube]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/15/exceptional-catch-the-jj-witness-video-eye-witness-audio-of-mike-brown-shooting-sharing-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/

Here is a transcript:

    #1 How’d he get from there to there?

    #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

    {crosstalk}

    #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

    #1. Oh, the police got his gun

    #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

    {crosstalk}

    #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

    #1 The Police?

    #2 The Police shot him

    #1 Police?

    #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

[JakeStyle]

An aggressive and violent 290lbs man can easily absorb several 9mm rounds.  It sounds pretty sketchy for the officer at this point,
but I will wait until the "investigation"  is complete.

[Chris_]

Missouri Democrat Tried to Restrict Public Information on Police Shootings Last Year

Oh, hay... lookit.