Obama Has Proposed 442 Tax Hikes Since Taking Office

[willcross]

Obfuscation at its worst, willcross. C'mon, for such a smart guy you can do better than that. Right?

You wouldn't know logic if it hit you in the balls. But, I'm in a good mood today, so I'll play your obfuscation game.

When an entitlement - and that's what the dependent care tax credit is, just in case you missed that little gem -- is increased, that increases the tax load on those that actually pay taxes.

You utterly failed to see my anecdotal evidence. When a single mother, who is logically going to be the recipient of most child care dependent tax credits, doesn't pay taxes to begin with and then receives even more from the federal government, somebody's got to pay the bill. It isn't going to be the single mother, because she hasn't paid taxes from the get-go. It's going to be the rich and the middle class, who pay virtually all the taxes to begin with.

So a child care dependent tax credit helps nobody but that person who doesn't pay taxes to begin with.

Are you starting to get the drift here? Or are you as monumentally stupid as some of my long-time colleagues on this forum think?

So how does this differ from any tax reduction? Wouldn't the same logic apply if Obama lowered taxes in anyway whatsoever? Wouldn't that increase the tax load on some other segment of the population or future segment?

[Eupher]

So how does this differ from any tax reduction? Wouldn't the same logic apply if Obama lowered taxes in anyway whatsoever? Wouldn't that increase the tax load on some other segment of the population or future segment?

Yes. It's confirmed. You really are a ****ing idiot.

[willcross]

Yes. It's confirmed. You really are a ****ing idiot.

Yeah I didn't think you would be able to explain the difference lol

[Big Dog]

So how does this differ from any tax reduction? Wouldn't the same logic apply if Obama lowered taxes in anyway whatsoever? Wouldn't that increase the tax load on some other segment of the population or future segment?

Two little words, cupcake.

A libertarian knows these two little words like the back of my hand.

A collectivist, redistributionist, leftist piece of shit will never guess them - not in a million years.

Two little words- what are they?

[Eupher]

Yeah I didn't think you would be able to explain the difference lol

Of course I can explain the difference, shitbird --

It's called (and I'll type slow so you can understand) OBFUSCATION.

Look the word up and learn something today -- if you dare. 

[EagleKeeper]

Just as a reminder.

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Quote from: obumazombie on February 23, 2014, 11:16:30 pm
That might be your name, but, who are you ?

Also I'm a hardcore libertarian.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,94115.msg1195670/highlight,willcross+libertarian.html#msg1195670

[Mr Mannn]

Are you starting to get the drift here? Or are you as monumentally stupid as some of my long-time colleagues on this forum think?

Monumentally stupid. Let me repeat that, "monumentally stupid."
Libertarians and Conservatives understand economics, liberals have no freakin clue.

And Wee Wiley, bitch slap given for being monumentally stupid.

[Big Dog]

Looks like the poser ran away with his weasel tail between his legs.

He probably spent all day asking his leftard friends what those two words could possibly be- and came up empty.

[NHSparky]

So by that definition, any lowering of taxes is actually a tax increase. Even if we lower taxes on every American by 10%, that will add to the deficit, that must be paid by future American taxpayers. By this definition, every temporary tax break, tax credit, deduction, or lowering of taxes is actually a tax increase on other tax payers or future tax payers.

Logically speaking, this is true. I wouldn't say it's the definition of "tax hike" that most people would use however, or a useful measure of campaign promises?

Shifting the burden from people who don't pay in the first place onto people who are paying a larger and larger portion of the tax burden IS, in fact, a tax INCREASE.

By eliminating an excise tax, for example, and rolling it into another tax, that in fact could (and usually does) result in a tax INCREASE.

[NHSparky]

Repealing taxes, increasing tax credits, and lowering taxes, are tax hikes. Do you agree or disagree?

As soon as you can tell us 1--what exactly a tax credit IS, 2--who pays for them, then you may continue in the discussion.