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DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« on: March 15, 2014, 01:14:58 PM »
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The plane was stolen and landed on a blocked off road


After the most recent updates, it's looking more and more like the MH370 was stolen in a very elaborate, well planned plot that required at least 2 miles of road to be blocked off for landing.

The transponders were systematically shut off.

There is no debris at all.

Look for satellite footage of roads, not oceans.

I hope whoever did this will spare the lives of those on board.

Update: According to Forbes, for this to work,

Landing on an interstate median is a non-starter, so we’re confined to one side of the interstate (with lanes going in one direction).
Interstate highways have a minimum of two 12 foot lanes + outside shoulder of 10 ft + interior shoulder of 4 feet. That gives a runway width of 38 feet. Although I could only find interior cabin dimensions for the 747 and the C-130J, I’m pretty sure that hull thickness is not on the order of feet – so it looks like the basic minimum specs work for the cabin and – by inference – the wheel track.
That brings to the question of length. Per Boeing’s Airport Planning Guide for the 747-800 (http://www.boeing.com/commercial… – Graphs 3.4.1 and 3.4.2 on pages 41 & 42), it requires a minimum of about about 4750 feet (0.9 miles, 1448 meters) of dry runway at sea level for an with an unloaded aircraft. This goes up to about 11,500 feet (2.2 miles, 3505 meters) on a wet runway with a fully loaded aircraft.
It will need to be a very straight section of interstate. No curves.
It will need to be a very flat section of interstate. No hills or mountains.
It will need to be a comparatively unobstructed section of interstate. No overpasses or interchanges.
The 747 has a wingspan of 200 feet. There shouldn’t be anything – buildings, billboards, trees, etc. – within a bare of minimum of 125 feet of the outside of the outer shoulder.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2012/09/25/could-you-land-a-large-plane-on-an-interstate-highway/

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1. Throw in "Ah-nuld," a snappy catch phrase, and some nudity ...

We have a summer blockbuster!

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2. IF the plane landed...


... I doubt the hijackers would have housing and food for 230+ people.

So, (I hope not), but it seems either way - a crash or hijacking - the majority of the passengers are most likely dead by now.

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okaawhatever (4,447 posts)
9. Normally, they would keep the passengers alive and would have had provisions. Remember, the

passengers would be their collateral. If they were found out, and it were discovered the passengers were dead Malaysia or someone else would have droned their ass. The kink in that theory is that the plane was supposedly going to be used for something else. As in, probably filled with explosives and flown into something. That or just flown into something. We'll see, but I'm with you, I hope they're okay even if they are being used as hostages. At least they would have a chance.

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treestar (48,611 posts)
41. But they've had several days to announce themselves.

And make their demands.

Or their planned landing could have gone wrong and killed everyone. They'd have to try it in a remote area.

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34. Just one theory

It were some sort of right-wing group, perhaps they thought they could use the plane to drop a bomb, maybe some nuclear weapon, on a targeted country. What else could the plane be used for except something like an attack by terrorists???

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7. Um....no.

First, you'd need a road much wider than the typical road in that part of the world. You're not going to find many 6-lane interstate-like roads there, and the ones you do find are going to have traffic. Which might notice the unscheduled road closure and the giant airplane landing on the road.

Second, 777s are heavy. A landing 777 puts tremendous pressure on the "runway". Airport runways are many times thicker than highways in order to deal with the load. A typical interstate is 8" thick concrete. A typical major airport runway is 24-48* thick concrete. You'd have pretty severe damage to the roadway from the 777 landing.

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10. They would need their own runway cut in a jungle

It can be done by using a temporary tarmac but now we are talking James Bond super villain kind of stuff.

The money and resources it would take to do this they could buy a used Jumbo jet

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19. yes, i get thoughts of a secret city and them wanting to do some experiments

not terrorism when i think of things the op is saying.

and of course ALIENS

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LeftyMom (45,594 posts)
12. That is the stupidest idea on DU since Bush started the Boxing Day tsunami with his weather machine.

Your very own source tells you why it's stupid.

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Ghost in the Machine (13,512 posts)
27. I had this thought 2 days ago, but didn't post it because I didn't want it locked as a Conspiracy

Theory thread....

Peace,

Ghost

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Zorra (22,070 posts)
28. LOL! And I suppose the next thing you'll say these *superheroes* might do is

hijack jets and fly them smack dab into the World Trade Center in the middle of ****ing New York City!

And then the Pentagon!
 

Get real!
 

Things like these just can't happen in real life, in the realworld.

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31. With all due respect, this is idiotic...

This plane was flying in Southeast Asia. They don't HAVE interstate highways, and they don't have deserts in which the roads they do have are long enough and wide enough to land a plane on, THEN hide it, and THEN presumably prepare it for future takeoff. There's a reason plots like this are found in James Bond movies.

If you accept two reasonable points: 1) the plane had a communications failure, and 2) the plane turned around because of the failure, it's not unreasonable to assume the plane crossed Malaysia into the Straits of Malacca and/or the Indian Ocean, and thus it is (or was) in an area nobody was looking in.

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32. A day later, not so crazy... n/t

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 01:48:48 PM »
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 02:57:33 PM »
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Interstate highways have a minimum of two 12 foot lanes + outside shoulder of 10 ft + interior shoulder of 4 feet.

Aren't Interstate highways only in the US?  Sure they have highways in those other countries, but I doubt if they call them interstates.  Then again why would our highway measurements apply to highways in other countries?

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 03:45:02 PM »
I'm waiting for a DUmmy to suggest an explanation that includes cinder blocks.

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 04:48:48 PM »
Having worked as a security guard on a construction site at Epply Airfield in Omaha which can handle jumbo jets , I can tell you that the interstate highways or any equivalent roads could not hold up a Jumbo jet. The depth of both are to different with the Airport runways being far deeper then any highway I have seen built. If anything is likely to have happened to that plan as far as where it went if hijacked they depressurised the cabin and took out the passengers and whoever flew it  was on oxygen till they hit Iran. There they landed it and maybe hid it in a hanger by now and who knows what they may do with it.
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 06:42:47 PM »
Having worked as a security guard on a construction site at Epply Airfield in Omaha which can handle jumbo jets , I can tell you that the interstate highways or any equivalent roads could not hold up a Jumbo jet. The depth of both are to different with the Airport runways being far deeper then any highway I have seen built. If anything is likely to have happened to that plan as far as where it went if hijacked they depressurised the cabin and took out the passengers and whoever flew it  was on oxygen till they hit Iran. There they landed it and maybe hid it in a hanger by now and who knows what they may do with it.

Iran slips it into a domestic flight carrying an atomic bomb somewhere....or....they hit a big out door event like the Indy 500 and take out a couple hundred thousand.

Then we turn the Mideast into a glow in the dark amusement park.

I know Jimmy Carter did away with(??) the neutron bombs we had developed.....how long would it take to make a few of those for the Muslim Haj.
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 07:48:02 PM »
Iran slips it into a domestic flight carrying an atomic bomb somewhere....or....they hit a big out door event like the Indy 500 and take out a couple hundred thousand.

Then we turn the Mideast into a glow in the dark amusement park.

I know Jimmy Carter did away with(??) the neutron bombs we had developed.....how long would it take to make a few of those for the Muslim Haj.

Would the US be within the range of a &&& flying from the Middle East?  China and Russia are, though.

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 12:27:19 AM »
Would the US be within the range of a &&& flying from the Middle East?  China and Russia are, though.


More like it would be Israel to get hit or someplace in Europe.
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 06:07:57 AM »
TLDR, did anyone else notice that only the US has Interstate Highways?
Pretty sure they'd be called something completely different in places without, you know, states...
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 06:19:13 AM »
Aren't Interstate highways only in the US?  Sure they have highways in those other countries, but I doubt if they call them interstates.  Then again why would our highway measurements apply to highways in other countries?

Those were my first thoughts.  The 777 didn't have the fuel to reach the US.  Only the US has "interstate" highways, and other countries use "meters" instead of honest to by God FEET! 

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 07:45:11 AM »
Iran slips it into a domestic flight carrying an atomic bomb somewhere....or....they hit a big out door event like the Indy 500 and take out a couple hundred thousand.

Then we turn the Mideast into a glow in the dark amusement park.

I know Jimmy Carter did away with(??) the neutron bombs we had developed.....how long would it take to make a few of those for the Muslim Haj.

They won't be able to get through defenses and radar in any western country.  My theory.  It's in Iran there and there are several 7,000' runways within the flight radius of that jet.

The scary scenario I see is this the jet gets repainted to look like this:



And then fly it...loaded with a nuke...into this:



Instant WW III.
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 10:49:31 AM »
The odds are the plane is at the bottom of the ocean.

But for fun, lets make up conspiracy theories !  :hyper:

Here is mine.

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Terrorists stole the plane, and killed all the passengers on board by taking it up to over 45 thousand feet so they would all suffocate.  They then landed it on a remote abandoned military airfield. The terrorist's plan is to repaint the plane to match a target aircraft, and through creative hackery clone the transponder data.

The terrorists then load up the plane with an explosive device, and get it into the air. Smaller planes then shoot down the target aircraft, the hijacked plane assumes the rest of its course. The hijacked craft then radios back that nothing is wrong, must have been some sort of glitch. Air traffic sees nothing, assumes all is well.  The plane flies into the metropolitan area in which the original plane was supposed to land and boom.

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 10:54:46 AM »
And then fly it...loaded with a nuke...into this:



Instant WW III.
At least we start with a few million dead jihadist to the good.
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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2014, 10:59:33 AM »
My second conspiracy theory.

There is no missing plane, the whole thing is a hoax to promote the new season of 24.

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Re: DUmmy conspiracy theories regarding missing Malaysian plane
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2014, 12:12:19 PM »
They won't be able to get through defenses and radar in any western country.  My theory.  It's in Iran there and there are several 7,000' runways within the flight radius of that jet.

The scary scenario I see is this the jet gets repainted to look like this:



And then fly it...loaded with a nuke...into this:



Instant WW III.

They would have to wait a while for it to work.  If they tried that too soon, most sane people would recognize it as a false flag operation.  However, the time would be perfect for Israel to paint a plane to look like the missing one and fly it into a western city and make it look like Muslims did it.