Liberals wonder why getting taught by liberals is so expensive

[BannedFromDU]

Star Member xchrom (100,185 posts)

How Did College Education Become So Ridiculously Expensive?
http://www.alternet.org/education/how-did-college-education-become-so-ridiculously-expensive



The student loan crisis is a new phenomenon. Despite its huge impact, as recently as the late 1980s there was no student loan crisis. Then, middle and working class students suffered from cutbacks and had difficulty financing their educations, but overall, while the system of paying for college was beginning to break down, it had not yet become the disaster it is today. The crisis came because in later years the cost of getting a higher education rose many times faster than the overall cost of living. To make matters worse, wages were stagnant and the real purchasing power of working Americans was in decline.

The crisis now centers on the inability of borrowers to repay their student loans, but those borrowers only needed loans in the first place because in the mid-1990s the cost of tuition escalated so dramatically.


(Hey, DUmmy morons: here's who ran your lives in the 'mid 1990's': ...doesn't look like Reagan to me.)

By the first decade of the new century, it virtually went through the roof. What drove this sudden and rapid increase?

When I was a young man in the late 1950s, many families could afford college even though far fewer than today thought it necessary. The son or daughter of a working class family could attend a public college or university where the cost of tuition was almost negligible, even for families with limited funds. Working class kids with enough talent could win scholarships to attend the more elite private universities, as I did. But even those private universities kept tuition low enough for middle class families to afford. I used my scholarship at the University of Chicago, one of the most expensive institutions in the country. Tuition was $870 per year when I enrolled in 1958 (just under $7,000 in 2013 dollars).

Young people in my time had access to an additional advantage students are unlikely to have today: part-time jobs during the school year and full-time temporary jobs in the summer. The extra money allowed me to pay for my own living expenses and graduate without debt and without having burdened my parents. I was typical. The robust American economy at the time allowed many students like me to “work our way through college.” That phrase sounds quite hollow today since most of those jobs no longer exist.

Hey morons. Tell me how many "women's studies" programs there were in the 50's.

Want to know why college is so expensive? Because the assholes in charge now were students in the 60's and 70's, when it was decided that anyone should be able to study anything, and we needed "Women's Studies," "Cultural Studies," and other worthless degree programs populated by every possible affirmative action hire. All those worthless turds needed tenure, pensions, and all the other crap that union monkeys demand. Then there's this from your own precious government:



See that? The demand for college services has gone up, and so have the prices.

Bottom line is, if you want to consume college, do it, but shut the **** up when you have to pay for it. You're paying for the dinner parties and retirements of liberal turds JUST LIKE YOURSELVES.


ETA: Also, state funding of public colleges had to be reduced because of all the other public employee monkeys who are now owed lifetime full benefits because they helped people check out books at a public library or processed parking tickets. You guys squawk endlessly about pensions and healthcare being a basic right - well, time to PAY for it all, DUmb****s.

[Dori]

This is from the same crowd that wants hamburger flippers to make $15 an hour and public school teachers a $100k plus benefits.

I suppose they think college education if supposed to be free too.

 

[BannedFromDU]

This is from the same crowd that wants hamburger flippers to make $15 an hour and public school teachers a $100k plus benefits.

I suppose they think college education if supposed to be free too.

 

     They actually do think that. Everything should be funded by whatever money is sitting in the bank account of any and every KKKorporation and any and every person making one cent more than them. Except, of course, Apple. And George Clooney. And 0bama. And Soros.

[NHSparky]

When I was but a wee "yute", I had the opportunity to attend (didn't graduate, another story, don't judge me) one of the finest public engineering colleges in the country.

Back then, a mere 25-30 years ago, a full year of tuition for an OUT-of-state student was $6000.  Today, that same college charges $25K.

Outrageous, you say?  Oh, it gets better.  Try going to UNH where IN-STATE tuition for a liberal arts degree is the same $25K/year.

Meanwhile, down in Massivetwoshits, the liberal chattering classes on Beacon Hill and Cambridge are all agog over Fauxcahontas and her railing against the eeeeee-villlle 1-percenters, despite the fact she made a whopping $350K/year to teach ONE class.  ONE.  And half the time, I suspect the grad TA's were doing her heavy lifting.

But hey, Haaaaaahhhh-vad is an "elite" school, dammit!  Well, of course they are.  Tuition there is on the order of $40K/year with a total cost of attendance (depending on travel and personal expenses) of over $60K/year. 

From an edition of the 1963 CRIMSON:

Harvard's last tuition rise came in the fall of 1961, when the present rate of $1520 (including health service fees) went into effect. The $200 increase followed a rise in faculty salaries of $500,000 in the previous year.

For the record, the health services fee is a separate charge today--surprise!

So, given the CPI, had Harvard tuition followed it, a year's tuition would now cost about $10,000.  But wait--it's FOUR TIMES THAT!

Conundrum of conundrums, DUmmies!  How ever did it get so high???

I leave it to you, the "smratest" persons on the Innerwebz, to figure that one out.

[thundley4]

College tuition jumped when the fed got more involved in making loans available to almost anyone and everyone.

That caused a higher demand for education and drove the price up.

When demand for something goes up, the price goes up.

The same thing helped drive medical costs up. Before health insurance became widespread and most people paid for their own medical bills, visiting the doctor or hospital was much cheaper, because people did it less often.

[BannedFromDU]

College tuition jumped when the fed got more involved in making loans available to almost anyone and everyone.

That caused a higher demand for education and drove the price up.

When demand for something goes up, the price goes up.

The same thing helped drive medical costs up. Before health insurance became widespread and most people paid for their own medical bills, visiting the doctor or hospital was much cheaper, because people did it less often.

     All of that, plus the entitlements created by the educrat class. For the waves of professors now eligible for retirement with full salary and benefits, the only requirement for tenure was the ability to form reasonably stimulating suction with one's mouth (other orifices would also suffice). People anxious for a ride on the gravy train soon filled "Chicano Studies" degree programs and fanned out around the country to claim their birthright of free coffee and lazy afternoons.

     Want to know why education costs so much, DUmmies? Cornel West, that's why. He may not need a pick for that afro, but he definitely needs a paycheck for life so he can race hustle in style.

[Karin]

Well done, gentlemen. 

[hillneck]

Indoctrination isn't cheap.

[USA4ME]

I read in the WSJ a week ago about how the increased cost in obamacare is causing colleges to cut back their staffing and cut back many of their full time profs to working 29 or less hours. So you're either going to get bigger classroom sizes, especially at the freshman level, or the cost will go up so high the only one's who can go are the rich.

Libs do this crap to themselves then cry when things aren't fair.

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[obumazombie]

Indoctrination isn't cheap.

A free college degree is a basic human right.
I shouldn't even specify "A", because that would limit human rights to just one.

[cmypay]

I read in the WSJ a week ago about how the increased cost in obamacare is causing colleges to cut back their staffing and cut back many of their full time profs to working 29 or less hours. So you're either going to get bigger classroom sizes, especially at the freshman level, or the cost will go up so high the only one's who can go are the rich.

Libs do this crap to themselves then cry when things aren't fair.

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The college I work at has cut all adjunct profs to 28 hours. They are also running "concurrent" developmental classes. We have 8 levels of developmental math that students place into. Then they pick a time slot, because any (or all) of the levels could be in the class at the same time. This means our profs are not lecturing. Craziest thing I have ever seen!

[zeitgeist]

I was reading a DUmp thread back along where someone was ruminating on the cost of their student loan that had blossomed mightily because they had deferred payment ( but of course the interest kept compounding ) and when the went to pay it back it was unmanageable and could not be discharged by bankruptcy.  Oh, the horror.

In the words of Robert Service, " a promise made is a debt unpaid. ".  If you take da money you got to pay da vig or da man gonna break a your leg.  Miss a payment on and the cost goes up.  Soon it is an arm and a leg. And you still owe the original amount.  Deferred does not mean discharged.  Paying the interest only does not pay the principal. 
 
Interest is the same for an A student as an F student so it pays to study because with so many more grads when push comes to shove guess who is going to get better job offer.

[Ptarmigan]

A free college degree is a basic human right.
I shouldn't even specify "A", because that would limit human rights to just one.

While they are at it, they should get rid of grading altogether.

[98ZJUSMC]

This is from the same crowd that wants hamburger flippers to make $15 an hour and public school teachers a $100k plus benefits.

I suppose they think college education if supposed to be free too.

College tuition jumped when the fed got more involved in making loans available to almost anyone and everyone.
 

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[obumazombie]

While they are at it, they should get rid of grading altogether.

I like where you're going with this.
Just pay the bloated repulsive amounts of tuition, and get your degree. No class, no profs, no studying, no grades.

Alice Cooper anyone ?


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[GOP Congress]

Liberals wonder why getting taught by liberals is so expensive

Gee, Martha. Maybe it's because Obama and company have essentially monopolized the college loan business racket, so that they can pick and choose who gets the loans, and the colleges have no competition so whoosh!! goes their rates. This is nothing more than a Democratic Party money laundering scheme, coupled with an indoctrination process to ensure the "graduates" owe and owe and owe, maintaining their allegiance to the socialist agenda.

But you wouldn't know; you're a fargin' DUmmie.

[seahorse513]

When I was but a wee "yute", I had the opportunity to attend (didn't graduate, another story, don't judge me) one of the finest public engineering colleges in the country.

I would never judge you on something like that. You are smarter than all the liberals in Mass put together...

Not all colleges are for everyone....
I have known you a long time via the webz, it was you that woke me up and got me to realize how important it was to understand how our government works. I have always respected you for that...