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Offline Chris_

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Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« on: June 28, 2008, 09:03:27 PM »
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Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

Part I
May 8, 2008

It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire...

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world in those early months of 1965, a new ‘scene’ is just beginning to take shape in the city of Los Angeles. In a geographically and socially isolated community known as Laurel Canyon – a heavily wooded, rustic, serene, yet vaguely ominous slice of LA nestled in the hills that separate the Los Angeles basin from the San Fernando Valley – musicians, singers and songwriters suddenly begin to gather as though summoned there by some unseen Pied Piper. Within months, the ‘hippie/flower child’ movement will be given birth there, along with the new style of music that will provide the soundtrack for the tumultuous second half of the 1960s.
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Too much crazy in one place for me. Perhaps they did too much dope back then.
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Re: Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 05:33:12 PM »
So...  Johnson "created" the Tonkin Gulf incident to spark off the hippy movement?

Someone ate some bad shrooms.  :mental:
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Re: Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 02:42:48 AM »
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts)       Sun Jun-29-08 03:02 PM
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43. i think "the plot" is too strong for what the writer's saying.
 the "covert op" is my heading, purposeful to get readers. I wanted info on the la music scene before the rock era.

the writer himself never goes further than "look at these weird connections".

I was a teenager in the late 60s, in the hinterlands. I knew morrison was from a military family, but not that his dad was the tonkin gulf commander. most of the kids i knew knew about as much as me. i knew nothing of the backgrounds of the other folks in the piece (which i cross-checked). maybe hard-core music fans did, but most folks weren't exactly that hard-core, i think.

there was plenty of intelligence activity going on in those years, so i thought the background was interesting & wanted feedback.
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Re: Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 08:01:28 AM »
OMG!!!  Janis Joplin's father, Seth Joplin of Port Arthur, TX, was in the OIL BIDNESS!!!!1111singlessinglessingles

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Re: Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 08:27:00 AM »
Slightly shorter (but still as insane) reference here -


What do Frank Zappa, David Crosby, Jackson Brown, Mama Cass, Jim Morrison, John Phillips, Stephen Stills, Mike Nesmith (Monkees), Cory Wells (Three Dog Night), America (Gerry Beckley, Dan Peek and Dewey Bunnell), and Warren Zevon, have in common?

All became leading members of the counter-culture within a few years time.  The majority came from military/intelligence families.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2008/05/counter-culture.html

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Re: Was the LA counterculture a covert op?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 08:42:15 AM »
Slightly shorter (but still as insane) reference here -


What do Frank Zappa, David Crosby, Jackson Brown, Mama Cass, Jim Morrison, John Phillips, Stephen Stills, Mike Nesmith (Monkees), Cory Wells (Three Dog Night), America (Gerry Beckley, Dan Peek and Dewey Bunnell), and Warren Zevon, have in common?

All became leading members of the counter-culture within a few years time.  The majority came from military/intelligence families.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2008/05/counter-culture.html

Oh my.

I went back to the link and read the piece.  All I can say is....WHAT????

Well, Mama Cass (Ellen Naomi Cohen) was a JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

and Jim Morrison spent most of 1966 and into 1967 sleeping in cars and on the beach....his dad wouldn't give him a dime....

and the Phillipses lived on Lookout Mountain Rd. in Laurel Canyon for about 15 minutes before they moved to Bel Air Rd. in Bel Air, right across the road from The Beverly Hillbillies mansion.  The Clampetts owned guns and made illegal substances. hmmmm.