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Offline landofconfusion80

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Wouldn't that be swell?
« on: November 19, 2013, 07:23:01 AM »
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For Democrats, a Tax-the-Rich Road to Victory

For Democrats, a Tax-the-Rich Road to Victory

Richard Eskow

As we enter into yet another round of budget discussions, the Democratic Party is confronted with an opportunity – and a challenge. There’s an opportunity to shift the budget debate to an area where they hold the high ground. But it will be a challenge for some Democrats to take the initiative on a subject they seem reluctant to discuss.
 
The subject is taxes.

Tax increases are a subject people seem reluctant to mention in the nation’s capital. Republicans have convinced everyone inside the Beltway that new tax revenues are politically impossible. The talk on the Hill is that the White House is urging Senate and House Dems to accept a cuts-only budget deal for the next go-round. It seems that the conventional wisdom says tax increases are best left unmentioned.
 
But the conventional wisdom is wrong.

New polling by Hart Research Associates, conducted for Americans for Tax Fairness, confirms and amplifies findings from earlier studies showing that Americans strongly support higher taxes for the wealthy and corporations. And when we say “strongly,” we mean very strongly.
 
As that covert recording of Mitt Romney showed last year, some of the “1 percent” think other Americans aren’t pulling their own weight in this economy. As this new polling confirms, the feeling’s mutual. By a seventeen point margin (56 percent to 39 percent), the American people want the next budget agreement to include new tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy.
 
And despite the conventional wisdom which suggests that “moderates” reject tax hikes, the Hart polling shows that moderates actually want these tax hikes –by an overwhelming forty-two point margin. Registered independents, often thought of as the Holy Grail of electioneering, back them by a nineteen point margin.
 
The conclusion is inescapable: if Democrats make this budget battle a fight over who has the smartest spending cuts, they’re fighting on the Republicans’ turf. That will weaken them as they enter the 2014 campaigns. But if they make this a fight over taxes and jobs, that’s a fight they can win.
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http://ourfuture.org/20131117/for-democrats-a-tax-the-rich-road-to-victory?utm_source=signon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=eskowgo

1984 All over again!

That'll show those evil rich people! Let's make it 110% just to be sure! All that wealth they stole from the poor anyway! Have I missed any standard primitive rantings?
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 07:54:11 AM »
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4. ...But the public is against the anti-tax ideology. We can win on this issue if Democrats were only willing to pursue it. 

OK, you go right ahead. 

How come when your fellow DUmpmonkey, Steve Dawes, stood up during his campaign and said "I'm a tax and spend democrat" he didn't win by a landslide? 

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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 11:39:39 AM »
I love when they demand we tax corporations at higher rates, little do they know that corporations merely collect taxes, ever dollar the government rips out of their hands is charged to the consumer. So when the price of Cheetos necessarily skyrockets I will point and laugh at the DUmmies.
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 11:44:42 AM »
Wonderful idea DUmmies.
Run on raising taxes even more.  That's the ticket. Go, go, go.
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 11:59:42 AM »
Heh, I read a "rumor' today that Remington and freaking Kimber are tossing around the idea of moving out of New York with Remington going to Tennessee. 
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 12:11:27 PM »
What the hell, let's do it!

If the GOP elites thought that letting the cACA Obama HellCare go through so that the leftists would be destroyed, they should be all for this.
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2013, 12:56:40 PM »
Heh, I read a "rumor' today that Remington and freaking Kimber are tossing around the idea of moving out of New York with Remington going to Tennessee. 

That's not a rumor. The state has already made proposals to Remington for land, transport, and tax considerations.

Remington has been involved here since August, but no official announcement yet.

I have not heard anything about Kimber.

Gunmakers in the east cost shithole can move here and go from being the state's redheaded stepchild to being a respected and valued corporate asset.

With the respect comes a drastic reduction in tax and labor costs, and no possiblity of insulting, punitive state anti-gun regulations.

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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2013, 01:11:56 PM »
Heh, I read a "rumor' today that Remington and freaking Kimber are tossing around the idea of moving out of New York with Remington going to Tennessee.  

It will utterly devastate the Mohawk Valley, but the NYS Legislature and Governor has made it plain that Remington is not welcome (with the NY SAFE Act).  Kimber, I thought, had already chosen somewhere in the South to move to.
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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2013, 02:17:52 PM »
Heh, I read a "rumor' today that Remington and freaking Kimber are tossing around the idea of moving out of New York with Remington going to Tennessee. 

Remington has already taken the King's coin they will not be able to move.  I believe the deal was for 80 million for a govt contract and more money from the local govt to expand and fulfill this contract in N.Y.

"Local lawmakers apparently talked to Remington about its $20 million expansion. The company has received $5.5 million in state incentives over the past five years."

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/remington-opts-to-stay-in-new-york-state-expand-operations-after-getting-80m-govt-contract/#

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Re: Wouldn't that be swell?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2013, 02:35:21 PM »
The opportunity for Republicans in this is to use Obamacare to point out that when the Democrats 'Tax the rich,' the threshold for 'Rich' is so low that anyone at or above the median income is going to get hit hard.
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