How To Spot A Fake Obamacare Horror Story--- DU style

[dutch508]

It's not like the leftists to lie about Obamacare or how great it works, I mean- we don't ever see evidence of that... BUT!... the helpful progressives at Think Progress [dot] ORG have prepared a little guide how the normal DUmpmonkiez can stop and 'PROVE' the lies that Barrycare sucks.

Bill USA (2,843 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1022609

How To Spot A Fake Obamacare Horror Story
Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:38 PM - Edit history (1)

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/31/2868631/essential-guide-debunking-obamacare-cost-myth/


Since insurers have begun informing beneficiaries that their health care plans do not meet the new federal requirements of Obamacare, and will be either cancelled or significantly altered, the media has profiled countless middle class Americans who claim that the new health care law will force them to pay more for coverage.

Deborah Cavallaro, for instance, a real estate agent from Los Angeles, was enrolled in an individual plan that cost her just $293 per month. Under Obamacare, Cavallaro says she’ll have to pay over $400 for coverage she doesn’t need or want. But a higher premium doesn’t tell the whole story: while Cavallaro may spend more each month, she’ll be buying more comprehensive insurance with fewer out-of-pocket costs, better benefits that will cover more and cost her less if she actually falls ill, and much more robust consumer protections.

So before you buy into the sticker shock hysteria, here are four questions you should ask:

1. What does the old plan actually cover? ...(more)

2. Did this person go to the exchanges? ...(more)

3. Yes, the premium is low, but what are the co-pays and deductibles? This coverage often forces individuals who do use care to meet high deductibles — the amount you pay out-of-pocket before your insurance kicks in — pay high co-pays and co-insurance or limit the number of doctor visits that are allowed. Cavallaro, for instance, must meet a deductible of $5,000 a year and has an out-of-pocket cap of $8,500 a year. The plan covers just two doctors’ visits and each include a $40 co-pay.

4. Does this person qualify for subsidies? ..(more)



many of these stories involve people who had been paying for 'budget plans' (like buying a car with holes in the floor so your feet can reach the pavement so you can provide the motive power for the car --- i.e. by pushing with your feet) because they could not afford real insurance. In these cases often the people will qualify for subsidies.

See? It's not that Barrycare suck cock better than Barry does. It's that all the horror stories about Barrycare sucking cock are lies. Proof? We don't need no stinking proof!

This is hidden in the Propaganda Debunking (Group).
As there was this gym:

PatrynXX (2,965 posts)

not sure if this is the right place to put this. but there's this secretive group my dad joined
called www.theupdate.us wondering if anyone's heard of it. and is it a propaganda site?? Dad used to be like tolerable but he went nuts when Obama was first elected and now is a member of The Blaze, WND and now The update. course if you look for something called "The Update" your not gonna find anything. Sneaky. update is used more often that kicking someones ass.

I'm not saying how I know he joined this. Lets say my mother doesn't trust my dad anymore so I gotta be like the NSA... But when he buys a Semi Auto Sig Saur (sp) out of the blue. And plans on the M400, kinda needed. Like I'm willing to get killed for my rights. But people with guns like that are scared to die for their rights.

[vesta111]

Secretive groups like this Update group that have a good following  on the web are so hard to find.      Do they have a club house and secret hand shake, do they allow woman to join ?

OK, so who's Mole is this one, has the makings of some fun here.

"I'm not saying how I know he joined this. Lets say my mother doesn't trust my dad anymore so I gotta be like the NSA... But when he buys a Semi Auto Sig Saur (sp) out of the blue. And plans on the M400, kinda needed. Like I'm willing to get killed for my rights. But people with guns like that are scared to die for their rights."   
               

He/she is willing to die for the rights of others, the dead have no rights.  AND people like it's father are willing to kill so they themselves enjoy the rights they have killed for.

Or something or other, NOW I understand what you guys go through trying to read my convoluted posts.      

[Freeper]

1. What does the old plan actually cover? ...(more)
Probably covered what was needed by the person who had the plan, otherwise they wouldn't be happy with it.

2. Did this person go to the exchanges? ...(more)
If they did they probably couldn't find a plan that covered what they wanted and only what they wanted, plus the price was probably pretty steep.

3. Yes, the premium is low, but what are the co-pays and deductibles? This coverage often forces individuals who do use care to meet high deductibles — the amount you pay out-of-pocket before your insurance kicks in — pay high co-pays and co-insurance or limit the number of doctor visits that are allowed. Cavallaro, for instance, must meet a deductible of $5,000 a year and has an out-of-pocket cap of $8,500 a year. The plan covers just two doctors’ visits and each include a $40 co-pay.

Have you seen the deductibles of the new plans?

4. Does this person qualify for subsidies? ..(more)

If I need help paying for something I don't consider it affordable. Besides why should the taxpayers have to chip in and pay premiums for people? How about some actual affordable coverage with no subsidies, no muss no fuss?

The left can shine this turd with as much Kiwi as they want it will still be a pile of shit that stinks.

[Bad Dog]

PaytrinXX gets it "Like I'm willing to get killed for my rights. But people with guns like that are scared to die for their rights".  I'm scared to get killed for any reason however, I'm more than happy to kill for my rights.  Since PaytriX is willing to get killed for his rights, I think we can work things out.