Rant against liberal eugenics doesn't go as planned

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The OP so wanted to do a thread decrying the evils of the fascist state imposing eugenics policies on innocent inmates but then -- as it must -- the OP learned that eugenicists are part and parcel of the Proglodyte party.

Galraedia (2,928 posts)

Female inmates sterilized in California prisons without approval 

blah-blah-blah

Galraedia, IIRC, is a big defender of the NSA.

Arcanetrance (780 posts)

14. It's scary part is that if you look it is making huge in roads sadly I see more and more people
 
Advocating for permits to have kids and low IQ people to be sterilized. The funny thing is those who advocate these things rarely meet their own standards

closeupready (19,840 posts)

15. Yes, a longtime DU member promoted 'license to bear children' recently.
 
I told him/her where to go, but seems like it's an argument that pops up here more frequently over time.

RILib (852 posts)

29. well, there was a sob story in the Times about kids taken from a mother and put in foster care

Just reading about the home life and mother - drunk, drugs, one kid after another with no way to support them, physical abuse, leaving them home alone - made me think it would be criminal to have any child in that situation. This is not a vote for eugenics, but let's not enable this either.

ForeignandDomestic (150 posts)

35. That is sad..

But the human spirit is strong and their are tales of people who come from situations just like that who persevere and become outstanding citizens and make a positive difference on society as a whole.

How arrogant are some humans who feel they should be the authority on when life can be created, this planet was here before there were humans and will be here long after we stupid humans have destroyed ourselves.

This is a planet beaming with life and abundant resources that could sustain everyone on this planet and the many more to come behind us, the only scarcites are the manufactured ones because of greed.

RILib (852 posts)

45. that's nonsense

This is nonsense: "This is a planet beaming with life and abundant resources that could sustain everyone on this planet and the many more to come behind us, the only scarcites are the manufactured ones because of greed. "

The planet is already at 130% of its carrying capacity in terms of human population.

Tumbulu (3,295 posts)

60. I am with you

and I am sorry, but producing children into these situations is morally wrong and the pro-life nut jobs are making these people feel that they have done something right by producing a child- regardless of their ability to care for him or her.

It is wrong and I am all for stronger social services and I want children taken away from these people far faster than has been the case and I am sorry, there are not enough resources for the planet to be filled with people who are recreating in a free for all.

The arguments in this post are ridiculous.

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

20. I think EVERYONE should get sterilized after 2nd kid

Incentives for getting sterilized after one

Bigger incentives for getting sterilized and remaining childfree.

But then, I favor extreme measures to get the population down in order to preserve the planet (Sterilization is a lot less egregious than wars, which in the end, serve the same purpose--reduce population. i.e. Wars over resources).

And, I like animals and plants better than people, so.....

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

25. financial penalities and incentives would be really good.

I saw headlines recently showing that population numbers are actually RISING, contrary to belief that they had started to fall. Sorry I don't have the link, not up for searching. You could probably search it, if you want.

The whole subject makes me so angry. Babeez babeez babeeeeeeeeeez. Puke.

BTW -- She's the one running around claiming "tens of millions of women will die" if NC outlaws infanticide after 5 months.

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

32. who we are now is not who we were
 
you once sat in your own shit. Do you still? That's how useful your "argument" is.

I hate you people who just can't permit anyone to speak who isn't soppy and soggy about babeez.

Do you think everyone should just continue on this path of relentlessly spurting them out? Don't you think some voices for moderation need to come to the fore?

"Do regret being born seeing how you view it as a negative for this planet?" <---what lame bullshit. I've heard this exact comment from so many Fetus Fetishists.

Why don't you go harass women at the health clinic?

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

44. Religious Browbeating. Fail.


I have every right to dislike babies. You don't get to dictate. Troll.

Also, overpopulation kills.

Your arguments are fallacious, 'fallacy' being incorrect argument in logic and rhetoric resulting in a lack of validity, or more generally, a lack of soundness.

Aren't your Birthright buddies missing you by now? (BirthRight/Crisis Pregnancy Centers--noted for deceptive advertising, manipulating women with fear, and pushing religious extremism. CPCs have been reported to disseminate false medical information, usually but not exclusively about the supposed health risks and mental health risks of abortion.
CPCs are typically run by pro-life Christians according to a conservative Christian philosophy, and they often operate in affiliation with one of three non-profit organizations: Care Net, Heartbeat International, and Birthright International.)

ForeignandDomestic (150 posts)

52. I have every right to dislike babies. You don't get to dictate. Troll.

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I'm a dictator because I don't women sterilized against their will?

I'm what neither you nor the Right wingers are; I'm actually pro-choice meaning it's human beings natural right to decide whether they do or don't want to bring forth offsprings.

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

58. Another Logic Fail--putting words in my mouth that I did not say.
 
I did not say I support sterilization against will.

My ideal is no more than two kids per family, and preferably one or none.

I support meaningful incentives toward that end.


But you pounce on me for expressing my individual preference. I don't like babeez. That doesn't mean I think everyone should feel the same.

I have seen you posting other tripe about the Creator, and population numbers being meaningless because the Earth can support more and more and more........

You're not operating in reality world, my friend.

Can't you just picture this stupid harpy ranting at her computer?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014529587

[Gina]

Tumbulu (3,295 posts)

60. I am with you

and I am sorry, but producing children into these situations is morally wrong and the pro-life nut jobs are making these people feel that they have done something right by producing a child- regardless of their ability to care for him or her.

It is wrong and I am all for stronger social services and I want children taken away from these people far faster than has been the case and I am sorry, there are not enough resources for the planet to be filled with people who are recreating in a free for all.

The arguments in this post are ridiculous.

This is the saddest thing I have ever read.  Of course creating life is a great and right thing.  You worthless twit.

[FlaGator]

Its funny that BlancheSplanchnik is making the same population argument that Rev. Robert Malthus made in 1798 and just like him she is not taking into account of technology closing and out pacing the gap between the amount of people to feed and the ability to grow food to feed them. She is assuming a steady growth of people and a stagnation of technology.

[Dori]

The planet is already at 130% of its carrying capacity in terms of human population.

I would love to see how this conclusion was formed.   

[DefiantSix]

I would love to see how this conclusion was formed.   

No you wouldn't.

[miskie]

I would love to see how this conclusion was formed.   

It was probably one of Nad's conclussions and not a conclusion. Answering any question via self-inflicted head trauma seldom works.

[Freeper]

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

44. Religious Browbeating. Fail.


I have every right to dislike babies. You don't get to dictate. Troll.

Also, overpopulation kills.

Your arguments are fallacious, 'fallacy' being incorrect argument in logic and rhetoric resulting in a lack of validity, or more generally, a lack of soundness.

Aren't your Birthright buddies missing you by now? (BirthRight/Crisis Pregnancy Centers--noted for deceptive advertising, manipulating women with fear, and pushing religious extremism. CPCs have been reported to disseminate false medical information, usually but not exclusively about the supposed health risks and mental health risks of abortion.
CPCs are typically run by pro-life Christians according to a conservative Christian philosophy, and they often operate in affiliation with one of three non-profit organizations: Care Net, Heartbeat International, and Birthright International.)

What a nasty horrible bitter bitch.
Another DUmmy who I wish their mother had been pro choice and had them killed when they were just a clump of cells.

I would love to see how this conclusion was formed.  

I imagine there was a bong involved.

[jtyangel]

And which party supports the kind of programs and culture which incentivized such careless and irresponsible procreation to begin with? That's what I thought...

[Karin]

That Blanche creature is loathesome.  I can see her happily working in a Gosnell butchershop.  I could see her actually kill "babeeez" in their cribs.  With an evil smirk on her face.  "It was just crib death.  No big whoop." 

[Tucker]

BlancheSplanchnik (7,984 posts)

Bigger incentives for getting sterilized and remaining childfree.

We know that obamacare and death panels will snuff them out at the first chance but who do they think that will care for them when they get infirm with no children to burden?

[jukin]

Cognitive dissidence
One of the hallmarks of progressive “thought” is the ability to hold two diametrically-opposed and directly contradictory positions simultaneously, and insist that they are not only not contradictory, but that both of them are absolutely true, as well as being morally superior to anyone else’s opinions on either subject.

It is often encountered when progressives are busy trying to abolish an object or business they loathe (automobiles, tobacco, guns), while still trying to figure out some way to keep making money (tax revenue) off it. This is a classic example.

In the real world, someone with this “split” worldview would be defined (clinically) as suffering from a schizoid disorder. In progressive circles, it is defined as a higher plane of “enlightenment”.

Fighting to kill seven month old babies and against eugenics can be added to the list.

[FlaGator]

I would love to see how this conclusion was formed.   

Lower torso...

[dandi]

There are so many within the Democrat Party exactly like this horrendous "BlancheSplanchnik", and the other members pretend to disgree with her and make excuses like, "Well, we are a big tent with a wide diversity of thought."

Bullshit. It's the morally relativistic nature of the Democrat Party and the liberals within it that have bred this kind of nihilistic mindset.

[Big Dog]

Tumbulu

producing children into these situations is morally wrong

The Proglodytes can say this shit in their echo chamber.

DUmmy Tabouli,

Get your ass over here and defend the statement that "producing children...is morally wrong". Be prepared to state the basis for this idea of "morality".

Or go **** yourself.

[98ZJUSMC]

Cognitive dissidence
One of the hallmarks of progressive “thought” is the ability to hold two diametrically-opposed and directly contradictory positions simultaneously, and insist that they are not only not contradictory, but that both of them are absolutely true, as well as being morally superior to anyone else’s opinions on either subject.

Just like children.  They don't know any better. 

[diesel driver]

Just like children.  They don't know any better. 

Unlike children, children can be taught.

[movie buff]

"Blanche" sounds like a complete ghoul, and potential nominee for DOTY.
She claims that she is not for "Forced sterilization," then says every family should be forced to be sterilized after their second child if they don't do so before then.
She probably works in an abortuary, gleefully sucking babies from their mother's wombs and hacking them to bits before chucking their remains into dumpsters. If not, she'd fit right in at one.

[diesel driver]

"Blanche" sounds like a complete ghoul, and potential nominee for DOTY.
She claims that she is not for "Forced sterilization," then says every family should be forced to be sterilized after their second child if they don't do so before then.
She probably works in an abortuary, gleefully sucking babies from their mother's wombs and hacking them to bits before chucking their remains into dumpsters. If not, she'd fit right in at one.

A descendant of Josef Mengele, no doubt.

[Wineslob]

RILib (852 posts)

29. well, there was a sob story in the Times about kids taken from a mother and put in foster care

Just reading about the home life and mother - drunk, drugs, one kid after another with no way to support them, physical abuse, leaving them home alone - made me think it would be criminal to have any child in that situation. This is not a vote for eugenics, but let's not enable this either.

Obungles has taken care of that.

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