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Offline thundley4

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DU doesn't toe the party line.
« on: May 30, 2013, 11:15:51 AM »
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kentuck (66,328 posts)    Thu May 30, 2013, 07:12 AM

The DemocraticUnderground can say things the Democratic Party cannot say.

DU does not have the same political restrictions as the Democratic Party and it shouldn't have.

Some may be of the opinion that our goal at DU is to get Democrats elected and, therefore, we should not veer too far from the Democratic Party talking points. In my opinion, that would not be a good idea.

For example, some may be inclined to defend Eric Holder instead of the First Amendment? In my opinion, DU should be open to discussion of both sides. That is the point of the First Amendment. But no one should be felt to believe they have to defend Holder because he is a Democrat and the President wants him to stay in his position.

This is just my opinion but I do not think DU should be too closely tied to any partisan positions. We should stand for truth and justice which may not always be the American way.

Also, we should not underestimate the power of the Internet and the power of the written word. The truth shines much brighter and larger than does shady propaganda or partisan lies.

If you notice, the television media is talking today about the issues we were talking about yesterday. This is a new media and DU has a role, as does everyone that posts their thoughts here, in my opinion.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022920868

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Ed Suspicious (1,175 posts)
1. If all that bubbles up from the underground is an affirmation of party talking points... idiocracy

comes to mind. (It's got electrolytes plants crave)

We're living in idiocracy.

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98. Basic fallacy at work - There is no monolithic opinion on all issues within the party.

So, how can DU reflect a consensus that doesn't exist? Obviously, opinions on issues, policies and actions are going to differ among Democrats, depending upon who you ask and their personal ideology.

Criticism within the party of government policies and actions is always allowed -- unless, we want to become Totalitarian Tea Party Types.

So long as criticism is reasoned and reasonably civil, it will always be welcome at DU, IMHO.

Oh  that is so not true.  There are certain positions which must be taken by members of DU or you will be tombstoned.  DU is nothing more than an echo chamber with little room for independent thought.

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2. META. and I disagree with your post 100%. I myself back Eric Holder for SCOTUS. Wiki included here
Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 08:43 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

this is a smear against the esteemed Eric Holder

and your use of DU in the title makes this meta


by the way-edit to add wiki of democratic underground

Democratic Underground

Democratic Underground, also known as DU, is an online community for U.S. Democrats. Its membership is restricted by policy to those who are supportive of the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates for political office. DU was established on January 20, 2001, the day Republican George W. Bush was inaugurated president.

The cracker primitive brings DU insanity to new levels.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 11:18:50 AM »
Granite dust is not good for ones health.....and I smell granite dust in Ken-Tucks future.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 12:17:11 PM »
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The DemocraticUnderground can say things the Democratic Party cannot say.

This is true but the DUmp cannot say things that the democrat party members in good standing do not agree with.

The democrat party is all about diversity as long as everyone thinks the same.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 01:27:49 PM »
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kentuck (66,328 posts)    Thu May 30, 2013, 07:12 AM
<snippage<
This is just my opinion but I do not think DU should be too closely tied to any partisan positions. We should stand for truth and justice which may not always be the American way.
Epic fail on that point.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 01:53:46 PM »
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kentuck (66,328 posts)    Thu May 30, 2013, 07:12 AM
<snippage<
This is just my opinion but I do not think DU should be too closely tied to any partisan positions. We should stand for truth and justice which may not always be the American is never the democrat party way.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 04:25:48 PM »
Kentuck is looking to taste granite.
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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 04:35:01 PM »
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Some may be of the opinion that our goal at DU is to get Democrats elected


I think this is part of the DU business model and stated as such by that Skinner person in no uncertain terms.
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Offline Ballygrl

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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 05:48:46 PM »
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this is a smear against the esteemed Eric Holder

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/28/axelrod-throws-holder-under-the-bus-says-naming-journalist-a-co-conspirator-is-very-disturbing/

Axelrod Throws Holder Under The Bus, Says Naming Journalist A “Co-Conspirator” Is “Very Disturbing”…

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Former Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod on Tuesday called the Justice Department’s surveillance of Fox News chief Washington correspondent James Rosen “disturbing.”

“I do think there are real issues regarding the relationship with the media on this leak matter,” Axelrod said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “The notion of naming a journalist as a co-conspirator for receiving information is something that I find very disturbing.”

Earlier this month, reports surfaced that the DOJ had seized Rosen’s personal emails and used other surveillance methods to investigate whether he was complicit in a leak of classified information.

BTW, your views are the minority, there are many Democrats who think DU is awful.

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Re: DU doesn't toe the party line.
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 06:03:44 PM »
Of all the lies they tell themselves, the one about having any thoughts beyond what the Dem party tells them to think has got to be the funniest.

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