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Quantess (23,962 posts)

Stockholm Suburbs Beset by more Riots
 
Source: online WSJ

STOCKHOLM—Cars and buildings were smoldering early Wednesday after a third-straight night of rioting around Sweden's capital, in what has become the country's worst outbreak of civil unrest in years.

Eight people were arrested overnight, bringing the total since the violence began Sunday to 15, said Kjell Lindgren, press officer at the Swedish Police. He said at least five people were being held on charges, and that more arrests were likely after video shot at the scene was reviewed.

Disturbances were reported in six areas as the violence spread around Stockholm. More than a dozen people torched cars, set a couple of buildings on fire and smashed windows at a police station in the Jakobsberg area, about 15 kilometers (9 miles) north of the city center.

Police characterized the night as calmer, however, saying there were fewer instances of rioters throwing rocks at police and firefighters. No serious injuries were reported.

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324659404578498363658678322.html

defacto7 (3,309 posts)
1. Since the article isn't visable

What are they protesting? Curious.

mwrguy (874 posts)
2. Inequality

and lack of opportunity.

I'll wager the Tea Party feels it has faced inequality and a lack of opportunity.

Nuclear Unicorn (6,962 posts)
17. Well, who wouldn't want to hire such enthusiastic, young go-getters?

And then there's this rather shocking exchange:

MADem (86,068 posts)
5. These are, despite the careful language, race riots.

The Swedes don't want to admit it, but they've got a problem, and they've got ghettos of angry and disaffected minorities on the outskirts of Stockholm. Unemployment is up, opportunity is down, welfare is being limited, and resentment against police treatment of minorities is growing. It's a recipe for trouble.

From REUTERS: http://news.yahoo.com/stockholm-riots-challenge-image-happy-generous-state-234811107.html

Stockholm riots challenge image of happy, generous state

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Hundreds of youth have torched cars and attacked police in four nights of riots in immigrant suburbs of Sweden's capital, shocking a country that dodged the worst of the financial crisis but failed to solve youth unemployment and resentment among asylum seekers.
Violence spread from the North to the South of the city on Wednesday as groups of youth pushed through Stockholm's suburbs casting stones, breaking windows and setting cars alight. Police in the southern Swedish city of Malmo said two cars had been set ablaze.
Local media said a police station office was set on fire in the southern suburb of RÃ¥gsved, where several people were also detained. No one was hurt and the fire was quickly put out.

...."We see a society that is becoming increasingly divided and where the gaps, both socially and economically, are becoming larger," said Rami Al-khamisi, co-founder of Megafonen, a group that works for social change in the suburbs.
"And the people out here are being hit the hardest ... We have institutional racism."

...Out of a total 103,000 immigrants last year, 43,900 were asylum seekers, almost 50 percent up from 2011. Nearly half of these were refugees from fighting in Syria, Afghanistan or Somalia, and will get at least temporary residency....Policing in Stockholm has already been the focus of controversy this year, with allegations that police were picking out darker-skinned immigrants for identity checks in subway trains.

MADem (86,068 posts)
7. They certainly are generous in absolute terms, but lately they've become less generous.

And they're getting resentful of all these "freeloaders," it would seem, if the rise of anti-immigrant political stances are any indication.

They'd shit if they had to deal with repercussions from 'benefits' and unemployment that are standard in USA, to say nothing of a structure in countries that are less 'generous' as well.

After decades of practicing the "Swedish model" of generous welfare benefits, Stockholm has been reducing the role of the state since the 1990s, spurring the fastest growth in inequality of any advanced OECD economy.
While average living standards are still among the highest in Europe, successive governments have failed to substantially reduce long-term youth unemployment and poverty, which have affected immigrant communities worst.

Some 15 percent of the population are foreign-born, and unemployment among these stands at 16 percent, compared with 6 percent for native Swedes, according to OECD data.
Youth unemployment in Husby, at 6 percent, is twice the overall average across the capital.
The left-leaning tabloid Aftonbladet said the riots represented a "gigantic failure" of government policies, which had underpinned the rise of ghettos in the suburbs.

As unemployment has grown, the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats party has risen to third in polls ahead of a general election due next year, reflecting many voters' worries that immigrants may be partly to blame.

http://news.yahoo.com/stockholm-riots-challenge-image-happy-generous-state-234811107.html

fasttense (14,444 posts)
8. Yes and it is NOT the absolute amount of welfare or food stamps

that cause the poor minority communities to riot. It's all about expectations. If you have been getting something and expect to get some very generous welfare benefits and then they are taken away, well it would make you angry. You would probably get even more angry when you find out you can not get a job and take care of your family like you expected. You would get even more angry if you find people see you as inferior and think you are somehow less because you can't get a job. And then to make matters worse the police treat you and your loved ones and friends like hardened criminals when you have done absolutely nothing wrong.

See here in the US we are all so very carefully taught that if you fail in this corrupt and broken capitalist economy it is your own damn fault. It's not the system's fault if you can't find a job. It's your fault because you failed to polish up the resume, or failed to finish college or high school. It's your fault that there are absolutely no jobs available to you because the few elite capitalist have taken the jobs to other countries (but still sell their crap in your country). It's your fault education cost so much that you can't afford it because the government has taken away support for colleges. See, all you have to do is find just the right field of work at just the right time, be born to uber rich parents, be willing to spend all your waking hours and some of your sleeping hours working for a pittance or be very, very lucky. We Americans are all taught it is our own fault that a corrupted and broken capitalist system does not work for us.

So... we are less likely to riot because our expectations are so low. Not so much the people in Sweden.

Quantess (23,962 posts)
12. Well actually it IS pretty shocking that some people

choose to set fire to cars, throw rocks at police and firefighters, vandalize shopping centers, police stations, etc.

Behaving this way in a country that has taken you or your parents in as refugees and given you a new chance in a safer environment, regardless of whether you can find a job or not, is... well, it's not admirable.

jessie04 (243 posts)
13. They come to Sweden looking for a new life.

They live in horrible conditions , don't get much money from the state and are always under scrutiny by the police.

**** you with a Muslim mob.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014490788

[thundley4]

Out of a total 103,000 immigrants last year, 43,900 were asylum seekers, almost 50 percent up from 2011. Nearly half of these were refugees from fighting in Syria, Afghanistan or Somalia, and will get at least temporary residency...

This seems to happen all too frequently.  Could it be part of the Muslim plan.  Start civil wars in your country knowing full well that western civilized countries will allow many Muslim to seek asylum and they emigrate to take over those countries or at least spread their misery?

[Celtic Rose]

How has western society reached the point that people can come in, demand free stuff, riot when they don't receive it, and then be "understood" and described as "disenfranchised" by the left? 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

How has western society reached the point that people can come in, demand free stuff, riot when they don't receive it, and then be "understood" and described as "disenfranchised" by the left?

Proglodytes are sad, pathetic beings.

They love nothing but themselves and yet the world reminds them of how inadequate they really are to live among the free.

So their self-love degenerates into hate of all things that do not love them.

The free world does not love them because the free world demands they prove themselves and yet they only prove what failures they are.

They do not love immigrants, they hate the free world.

The immigrants are a tool to destroy the free world. To subvert it, to supplant it.

And then the immigrants will love them as they ought.



Or so they keep telling themselves.

[Vagabond]

How has western society reached the point that people can come in, demand free stuff, riot when they don't receive it, and then be "understood" and described as "disenfranchised" by the left? 

Leftist, communist thinking.  The leaders among European/US leftist knew full well that he will never talk enough of their fellow Europeans/Americans into supporting them to get the absolute power and control they are so desperate to have.  Instead, they decided to seek out disaffected groups in their countries.

They encouraged and passed immigration laws favorable to groups they could entice and ensnare with money in countries where they didn't have a large enough block.  In the US, this has meant nothing more than a wink and a nod towards illegal immigration from Central America (an Arabized culture).  In Europe, it translated into bringing in the subhuman filth from North Africa and the Middle East.  Britian's liberal party admitted this.

Only it hasn't worked out like they thought.  In Europe the muslims were supposed to be forever greatful to their new leftist master and guarantee leftists get their thousand year reich, or whatever they call it this time.  Instead, muslims live in ghettos that the muslims themselves created and built enclaves from which they attack the country at large they are in.  It's an old colonization tactic.  The Europeans, and us for that matter, better wise up to what is happening soon.

[Ballygrl]

It took reading I don't know how many articles to finally find out the "immigrants" are from Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Somalia, so they're Muslim, and noooooooooo there's no war on the west!