Newbie DUmmy ranks Presidents - Fellow DUmmies get it all backwards as usual

[Ralph Wiggum]

Celldweller (61 posts)

Best/Worst POTUS rankings
 
just to break up the pitbullbenghaziirsmuslinsfreepaweinermayor type news...

I've always been fascinated by POTUS rankings.

I've seen many of the lists. I think it's kinda like asking New York City residents for their list of best baseball players.

1) Ruth
2)Mantle
3)Gehrig
4)Jeter
5)Berra
6)DiMaggio
7)Ford
8)Rivera
9)Munson
10)Pettitte

But POTUS has to be judged by things like:

1) State of Nation before and after term, financial, security?

2) Impact to Nation. What events happened during the term?

3) Geopolitically how was the nations standing changed by the term

4) Warm and fuzzies, how did the term make Americans FEEL?



Lincoln is at the top of every list of best POTUS ever. He certainly persevered to save the Union even at a great cost. His term also had the most negative IMPACT of any POTUS and thats the nearly 700,000 dead Americans and material destruction.

But he is saved by the state of the nation after his passing. The nation went from a slave holding nation on the edge of war or secession to a united nation without slavery. The US was stronger geopolitically after his term and for 150 years he's given all Americans the warm and fuzzies.

On the other hand, Jefferson is also rated in the top 5 but his claims to fame are the Louisiana Purchase and Lewis and Clark. And a scandalous second term...

JFK invariably makes the top 10 list. Some may ask, what did he do? Some may argue he set the US up for involvement in Vietnam. Some say he nearly got us all killed by the Soviets while others maintain he saved all of us. Did JFK have enough accomplishments to merit top 10 status? Or is he given full credit for the exam that was never completed?

FDR on the other hand scores high on every list and deservedly so. Saving an economy, winning a world war and setting the nation up for the most prosperous era in American history.

Your thoughts, favorites? Possible understated great POTUS?

And maybe some predictions how PBO will be ranked in 50 years?

And of course, the brain-dead moron Graham Cracker has it completely ass-backwards.

graham4anything (9,246 posts)
3. Lincoln, LBJ, FDR, Obama, Carter top 5 best.

Lincoln, LBJ, FDR, Obama, Carter top 5 best.


worst

#1 Reagan
#2 Bush, W
#3 Bush41


Note on Carter- I rank him so high based on 1977,1978 and the 1st half of 1979 and he should have been reelected but for sabatoge
and a fractured party.
In retrospect, Jimmy is better and better every single day that passes.

When Hillary keeps going with President Obama's agenda, she too will rank very high.And it will make President Obama's years all that much greater as it takes time.

 

[DLR Pyro]

worst

#1 Reagan
#2 Bush, W
#3 Bush41

[Zathras]

graham4anything (9,246 posts)In retrospect, Jimmy is better and better every single day that passes.

Actually the DUmbass is right on this one....every day that passes Obama proves more and more that he's the worst President ever, supplanting Carter in that role with flying colors.

[ConservativeMobster]

Jimmah hasn't been president in 40 years, how do you rate him better and better? jeez.

[98ZJUSMC]

graham4anything (9,246 posts)
3. Lincoln, LBJ, FDR, Obama, Carter top 5 best.

Lincoln, LBJ, FDR, Obama, Carter top 5 best.


worst

#1 Reagan
#2 Bush, W
#3 Bush41


Note on Carter- I rank him so high based on 1977,1978 and the 1st half of 1979 and he should have been reelected but for sabatoge
and a fractured party.
In retrospect, Jimmy is better and better every single day that passes.

When Hillary keeps going with President Obama's agenda, she too will rank very high.And it will make President Obama's years all that much greater as it takes time.

Yeah.  Where's my shocked face.

Not enough free shit, eh?   Phuckin' retard.  By every measure listed in the OP's qualifications, Reagan comes out on top.  Period.

[Duke Nukum]

Worst

1) 0bama
2) Carter
3) LBJ
4) Andrew Jackson
5) Clinton

Best

1) Washington
2) Reagan
3) Lincoln
4) ???

Can think of more bad ones than good ones.

[Vagabond]

I'm only going to rank presidents who's term of office is up, and history can reasonably judge.

Worst (no real order to this.)

1. James Buchanon - Had the oppurtunity to stop the events that led to the Civil War, decided to let Lincoln deal with it instead
2. James Carter - Totally inept, clearly out of his depth at the job.
3. Woodrow Wilson - Campaigned against US involvement in Europe, but got strong armed by banking interests, he is the worst in a lot of ways.
4. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Campaigned running against the Great Depression and only made the problem worse, his legacy is closing on on ruining this country.
5. Andrew Jackson - He did some good things, like getting rid of the Second Bank of the United States (We should follow suit with the Third) but constantly let his administration get caught up in scandals.

Best

1. George Washinton - He could have been the Emporer, but he chose not to, enough said but he was even better than that.
2. Abraham Lincoln - He preserved the Union at a terrible cost.  Who knows, maybe if he had time his concilliatory policy to the South might have stopped southern resentment later on.
3. Ronald Reagan - He took a country that was in a morass and didn't believe in itself and made it strong again while spreading the cause of Freedom far and wide.
4. Calvin Coolidge - He aggressively reduced the size and budget of the federal government after WWI.  The last president to do so.  The country enjoyed an economic boom under him.
5. John Adams - He took the fledgeling US Navy and slapped the Barbary pirates around the Mediteranean, something not even Britain and France had managed to do.

[Duke Nukum]

5. John Adams - He took the fledgeling US Navy and slapped the Barbary pirates around the Mediteranean, something not even Britain and France had managed to do.

Wasn't it Jefferson?

[Vagabond]

Wasn't it Jefferson?

I think you're right.  Washington had ordered Six frigates, they had mostly been completed on Adam's watch and the US Navy engaged in a local quasi-war with the French in the carribean. 

I think I discounted Jefferson because he had some really daffy ideas regarding naval warfare.  Jefferson wanted to use a Naval militia in small boats so as not to encourage foreign engagements, the problem is the small boats were totally worthless and abandoned after his presidency.  Jefferson was a Luddite Techie.