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Offline Aristotelian

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DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« on: May 05, 2013, 08:19:24 AM »
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I need any verifiable links proving gun violence decreases when there is an assault weapons ban

and/or the ban on huge clips.

Yesterday, at brunch with the girls, some of them were saying that "it wouldn't matter because then the only ones who will have them is the criminal, blah, blah, blah"

Normally I am in it all 'rough and tumble style', but this will need more...tact.

If anyone has anything handy, I'd surely appreciate it.

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Good job they're the smarterestest people on the internets, and don't need to keep asking for help in finding statistics...

So far only two responses - in both cases, unsurprisingly, the other DUmmies can't help either...

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malaise (105,507 posts)
1. Just say Australia

and tell them to google the facts

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2. Didja' google it?

There's the Brady campaign page, too. Have a nice Sunday

They can play all day long on the nadin machine...but facts is facts, and so you won't find statistics to support your position.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 08:52:42 AM »
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3. It would be easier if you use handgun bans

UK for instance

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6. Just word it carefully so hopefully nobody compares

overall murder/violent crime rates before and after, since there has not been any discernible reduction in violent crime which can be connected to the gun bans..

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 08:53:37 AM »
Hey bug lady, NJ has had such a ban for 20 years, why don't you move to Camden and enjoy the peace, serenity, and order?

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 09:23:48 AM »
That's sad if you have to word it carefully because otherwise anyone can shoot it down using facts. The reality is bans do not reduce crime they make it skyrocket just like your electric bill under 0bama.
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 09:51:26 AM »
In Hell, there is a strict gun ban and the crime rate is zero. Go there, DUmmie goons.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 10:18:45 AM »
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3. It would be easier if you use handgun bans

UK for instance

Yes, please use this so I could point out the bad guys just switched to another weapon, the Katana or Samurai Sword, as their weapon of choice. It got so bad that Britain has outlawed the ownership of Samurai Swords unless you're a collector. This will work until the criminals find yet another weapon of choice for their activities.
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 10:23:06 AM »
When in the wrong, try, try, try to deceive.

Why not?  It's like the whole "per 100,000" bullshit thing Alexandra Bainsbane likes to try and use to prove that somehow NYC is sitting on top of 400+ murders but is a gun control success.
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 10:30:50 AM »
In Hell, there is a strict gun ban and the crime rate is zero. Go there, DUmmie goons.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 10:43:58 AM »
Why don't they just make up their own stats, like the WH does?
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 12:45:13 PM »
Why don't they just make up their own stats, like the WH does?

I suspect that's what happened, and the Bug got called on it by her friends...so not she's looking to defend her original lies.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 12:46:07 PM »
Why don't they just make up their own stats, like the WH does?

They'd have to pull them out of their asses first, which they will, right after they pull "something else" out of their asses.   :gay:
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 12:51:58 PM »
They'd have to pull them out of their asses first, which they will, right after they pull "someone else" out of their asses.   :gay:

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2013, 04:38:09 PM »
I can only suspect this chart is what has the primitive in a tizzy - From Beck's new book, Control -



What it plainly shows is that as the availability of legally purchased arms increase, the per capita number of gun violence murder victims decrease. Too bad, primitive.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2013, 05:24:53 PM »
They sure try and twist the facts don't they
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2013, 06:07:24 PM »
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I need any solid* links proving gun violence decreases when there is an assault weapons ban
and/or the ban on huge clips.

It's funny that no one here or at the DUmp realizes this is a troll making fun of DUmp gun grabbers.

DUmmy LaydeeBug is good.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2013, 09:10:45 PM »
It's funny that no one here or at the DUmp realizes this is a troll making fun of DUmp gun grabbers.

DUmmy LaydeeBug is good.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2013, 08:55:55 AM »
It's funny that no one here or at the DUmp realizes this is a troll making fun of DUmp gun grabbers.

DUmmy LaydeeBug is good.


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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2013, 09:03:21 AM »
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1. Just say Australia

and tell them to google the facts

Ok.

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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2013, 09:12:05 AM »
We live in bizarre times where reality does not change thinking but that thinking changes reality.

The DUchebags are ahead of the curve on this but a majority of voting Americans are on board.
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2013, 10:09:17 AM »
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6. Just word it carefully so hopefully nobody compares

overall murder/violent crime rates before and after, since there has not been any discernible reduction in violent crime which can be connected to the gun bans..

Ahhh...spin-spin-salabim.  The reverse is true though, bithering (D)oUcherocket.  Violent crime decreases wherever concealed carry is enacted.

Then there's Detroit, Chicago, LA,.......

Statistics available, wherever honesty is valued.  Yeah, Australia.  I notice that  Australia only comes up tangentially to the gun argument, much like the Scandis come up in the sOcIaLiZM rOcKs dUdE!!!!!1111 argument.  As if, they are hiding inconvenient data.  Is there a reason for that?  Hmmmmm.....

Australians have become the sheep they used to tend.  I mean, they wouldn't, you know, LIE would they?

Ok.



Well, well, well......oh, yes they would.



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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2013, 11:33:02 AM »
Why doesn't she just make up the statistics like the libs usually do?
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Re: DUmmy can't find statistics which don't exist...
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2013, 01:55:33 PM »
Why doesn't she just make up the statistics like the libs usually do?

"1,200% of all privately owned firearms in Red States are used in violent crimes against children and gays".

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