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Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« on: April 06, 2013, 05:24:38 PM »
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2. What do you bet . . .

What do you bet his "mental illness" stemmed from his being gay in a biblethumper household?
 
I don't know that he was gay but I'll bet that's the way this will turn out.

Much castigation follows...

...but this is DU, after all.

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10. Nail on Head!

That is exactly the first thing I thought.

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DURHAM D (18,398 posts)

11. You joined up just to make this ignorant comment?

How about an old-timer then?

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14. That's pretty darn likely, whether or not people like to hear it. n/t

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34. Welcome to DU, OldRedneck!

Hey, good to have you here. Gotta admit - this was the first thing that crossed my mind, also.
 
Offspring with tangible emotional or psychological issues - in an environment that is possibly quite rigid, dictatorial, repressive/suppressive, and controlling - ESPECIALLY if religion of any sort is in the mix. How could it not be, in a household headed by a VERY public religious figure? Especially since Rick Warren made sure to question then-candidate Barack Obama in a VERY public forum that got a shit-ton of coverage, to make sure that he and his followers could be confident that the candidate's stand was "right" on the whole gay marriage thing. Doesn't anybody remember that? That was the biggest take-away from his televised interview with then-Senator Obama, and it got a massive amount of press. Imagine a child with inner confusions and doubts - being brought up on a household like that. I can't imagine how painful that would be! And to have to carry that around - the shame the son might have felt deep-down, the disappointment he may have assumed his father would feel towards him, the "failure" this might imply to someone brought up in that culture - where being gay is regarded as sinful. I'd shudder to think - if my father were out there pounding away on the superiority and, indeed, Godliness, of certain rigid belief systems, while inside myself knowing something about that just doesn't add up for me in my own personal reality. Depression that profound and deep stems from something deeper. How do we know this wasn't it?
 
Unfortunately, jumping to this kind of conclusion is sadly understandable in THIS politico-religious climate, among those who insist on bringing religious theory and dictates into EVERY issue.
 
I don't know how the Warrens were as parents. I don't know how tolerant or intolerant they were. I don't know what philosophy or moral code or ethical code they fed their kids with their breakfast cereal every morning. But if one of those kids starts feeling like the proverbial square peg in a round hole, results like what happened in their family are not completely surprising. Sad as hell. But, sadly, not surprising.



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25. It has to be difficult being the son of HATE. nt

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26. prayer didn't help?

go figure

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38. Perhaps his father will learn from this and become a less hate-filled human being

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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 05:28:06 PM »
Probably couldn't take any more abuse from the intolerant liberals about his fathers politics.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 05:29:13 PM »
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Be careful what we say in response to the death of Pastor Warren's son.

We don't know what happened with this young man.

The loss of one's child is the worst thing that can happen to a person, no matter who that person is.
 
And the Right will be monitoring this site for insensitivity.

And WE are supposed to be the folks that DO do empathy.

Until we know MUCH more, we need to be very, very watchful as to what we post on this subject.

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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 05:46:45 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 06, 2013, 05:24:38 PM
Much castigation follows...

...but this is DU, after all.

How about an old-timer then?



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When I read the news on Twitchy, I said a prayer for the family and sent an encouraging tweet to Pastor Warren.  I would do the same for a prominent Democrat.  Learn, DU!

Who is the one with hate: the person of faith, or the person who says hurtful things about a bereaved family?
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 05:55:29 PM »
Seriously, can a DUer come and explain how your vile hatred makes you any different from Westboro?
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 08:01:13 PM »
Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/06/pastor-rick-warren-son-commits-suicide/

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Warren's Saddleback Valley Community Church said in a statement that Matthew Warren had struggled with mental illness and deep depression throughout his life.

Nothing about Matthew Warren being gay, but suffering from unknown mental illness.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 08:07:35 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on April 06, 2013, 08:01:13 PM
Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/06/pastor-rick-warren-son-commits-suicide/

Nothing about Matthew Warren being gay, but suffering from unknown mental illness.

These same people used Bristol's pregnancy against Sarah Palin.  If there was even a chance that Warren had a gay son, of course they'd use it against him.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2013, 08:09:46 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on April 06, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
These same people used Bristol's pregnancy against Sarah Palin.  If there was even a chance that Warren had a gay son, of course they'd use it against him.

Everyone is a pawn to the left. It is mere political points to them. They think in collectives.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 08:12:32 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on April 06, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
Everyone is a pawn to the left. It is mere political points to them. They think in collectives.

It's just sad that politics trumps compassion.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2013, 08:17:10 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on April 06, 2013, 08:12:32 PM
It's just sad that politics trumps compassion.

It is sickening.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2013, 09:05:08 PM »
It won't matter if they don't mention he was gay. The libs will claim it anyway.

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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 10:02:30 PM »
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  And WE are supposed to be the folks that DO do empathy.
 

Well actually you are the folks that do HATE. 
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2013, 10:20:47 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 06, 2013, 05:28:06 PM
Probably couldn't take any more abuse from the intolerant liberals about his fathers politics.

Now, if you want to talk about first thoughts, there's mine.   :II: Hammered, day-in day-out by these scumbags because of who his father is.  Having mental/emotional problems since childhood and then having emotional children berate you constantly, as you watch a tolerable world go batshit insane.

I don't doubt that in the slightest.

I do fully expect some lefty dAiLykOOk bomb thrower to posit the ghey angle though.  It's almost guaranteed.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2013, 10:32:42 PM »
DU once again proves it is full of sick individuals
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 05:58:13 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on April 06, 2013, 10:20:47 PM
Now, if you want to talk about first thoughts, there's mine.   :II: Hammered, day-in day-out by these scumbags because of who his father is.  Having mental/emotional problems since childhood and then having emotional children berate you constantly, as you watch a tolerable world go batshit insane.

I don't doubt that in the slightest.

I do fully expect some lefty dAiLykOOk bomb thrower to posit the ghey angle though.  It's almost guaranteed.

But it's not bullying if DUmmies do it.....it's verbal educational correction.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 10:16:07 AM »
Hey darkangel...I hope you're paying attention.
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Re: Rick Warren's son committs suicide
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2013, 03:18:32 PM »
Quote from: txradioguy on April 07, 2013, 10:16:07 AM
Hey darkangel...I hope you're paying attention.

Don't expect anything from her.
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