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Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« on: March 19, 2013, 05:07:44 PM »
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Anyone notice something about the word, "Liberty?"

Organizations like Jerry Falwell's religious right groups and college, or people like Ted Cruz, these people who want so badly to stop others from having liberty, keep preaching liberty or naming their groups with "liberty" in it.

Liberty: FEAR IT!

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1. Word. nt

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Permanut (1,260 posts)

2. Also "freedom".

You can't listen for five minutes to any wingnut radio show without hearing at least one of these words.

Freedom: FEAR IT!

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3. They want the freedom and liberty to tell you what to do!
 
Many of them are actually very childish - they just think about themselves, and never even try to walk just a few steps in someone else's shoes.

TRANSLATION: conservatives want dictatorial power to be left alone!

Does that even makes sense?

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4. During New coming student orientation

 at Liberty U., Falwell would say this place is to the Right as Harvard "is to the Left." (Which sounds like a disingenuous comparison. ) and there are "no 'Socialists' here." In the same student orientation speech, he would joke in a deadpan fashion that the punishment for a male student walking into a girl's dorm building was to "shoot 'em".
 
I wonder if Jerry Falwell was the type of Conservative that would express his contempt for the Soviet Union, but was secretly envious of it's police state.
 
The name of his school seemed like it was meant for his ministry that helped people recover from alcoholism, but for some reason was misapplied to a place where he obliged religious parents with an authoritarian status quo.

Once upon a time Democrats thought the abolitionists were intolerable authoritarians.

And then they thought civil rights activists were intolerable authoritarians.

Now they think anyone who wants to keep what he morally earns is an intolerable authoritarian.



And here some of you thought my calling them "little tyrants" was mere hyperbole.


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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 06:09:36 PM »
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They want the freedom and liberty to tell you what to do

Yeah we are all about telling you how many rounds you can have in a magazine at any time, what kind of gun you can have, how big your soda can be, we forced you to buy health insurance, we want to raise taxes so you have less money, we want to decide what kind of car you can drive, and we want to tell you how much energy you can use and tell you what kind of light bulbs you can buy.

Oh wait that is what you DUmmies are doing.

No wonder they hate the word liberty, when man is free he can have his guns, he can have his big gulp, he can decide what is best for his health care, he has more money from his earnings in order to take care of himself and use how he sees fit, he gets to decide what vehicle to drive, and he decides how much energy he can consume using the light bulb of his choice. We can't have that now can we?

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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 06:30:52 PM »
Freedom from oppressive government.
Liberty to hold what we work for.
eff you, DUmpmonkey, and the democraps that follow you.
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 10:04:43 PM »
The words liberty, freedom, and family will be doubleplusungood crimethink when the DUmmies take power.
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 08:50:12 AM »
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Anyone notice something about the word, "Liberty?"

Organizations like Jerry Falwell's religious right groups and college, or people like Ted Cruz, these people who want so badly to stop others from having liberty, keep preaching liberty or naming their groups with "liberty" in it.

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2. Also "freedom".

You can't listen for five minutes to any wingnut radio show without hearing at least one of these words.

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength...



You DUmmie pigs disgust me...
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 08:53:23 AM »
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3. They want the freedom and liberty to tell you what to do!
 
Many of them are actually very childish - they just think about themselves, and never even try to walk just a few steps in someone else's shoes.

Refresh my memory...members of which political party are trying to tell us what guns to have what helath insurance to buy what cars to drive how much soda we can have in one cup...what food we can and can't eat...how much of our money we'rea loowed to keep.

I was pretty sure it's the political party that gets 100% of the vote from DUmmies like YOU!

There's more ****ing projection in that one post than in a 20 screen cineplex.   :thatsright:
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 09:40:09 AM »
Scratch a democrat, find a fascist.

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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 11:10:22 AM »
Wow. They hate the words "freedom" and "liberty". Never saw that coming.  :whatever:

These are the same ****ing idiots that put people like Maxine Waters in office. The bitch that said, "They were waving the American flag, and I thought that was outrageous."

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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 02:42:20 PM »
It's because of the whole moaning about gay marriage and the fact that we think there are better alternatives than ripping a baby from your womb so you won't be "punished by a mistake". Well, the latter is just a continuation of the euginics Margaret Sanger started. Destroy the black family by removing the men from their lives and making the government their baby daddy. Of course, that's when you can't convince them to have as many abortions as possible. Just do everything you can to tear down strong black families and you can pretty much completely destroy their pride & influence.

Make them so dependent that they don't even know they're getting a substandard education and have become nothing more than a side note. Well, until there's an election, then they're taught to blame every other group except the ones who've dedicated a couple of centuries to finding ways to keep them on the plantation. Hell, even when those rich plantation owners owned slaves, there were ones that got to carry guns around the homestead. Now they're banned in almost all cities where they house their new slaves. Well, except if you're a gang member or drug dealer.

How about, instead of allowing the left to abort you out of existence, taking just a few months of responsibility to have the baby and give it up for adoption so that one of the families that's been on a waiting list forever can give your child a good life? But rights with responsibility don't exist on the dumbed down left.

As for gay marriage, there's not a conservative anywhere that would stop two gay people from getting married. You want to get married? Find a Unitarian, Methodist or Episcopalian minister, or Alanis Morissette, to marry you. Invite friends & family, have a reception afterwards. Because that's real love and committment, sharing your love with family & friends. The fact that they don't do this pretty much sums up their motives.

Straight people are forced to get a stupid piece of paper from the government. It's none of their business. If the left TRULY wanted to set people free (regardless of whether they're strait or LGBTQXYZ or furrie) then they'd be proposing a flat tax for everyone to completely take the government out of people's private lives. There wasn't one time during my wedding when I thought "Damn, I'm SO glad I had the privilege of paying for the government seal of approval of our committment to each other!" Cuz, really, isn't that why we buy the dress & the cake and require the men in the wedding part to wear colors they'd never normally be caught dead in? Yep, government "acceptance", that's what straight people are celebrating!

But of course, then gay people wouldn't need the left because they wouldn't be victims any longer, so a common sense solution to the issue simply can't happen. And it would require they understand the true meaning of tolerance: you live your life and I'll stay yours & you can stay out of mine. If a deeply religious person thinks gay marriage is a sin, so be it because they wouldn't be having it shoved down their throat. If a gay person thinks conservative Christians are narrow minded bigots, that's cool too, because the alternative lifestyle folks would have the freedom to do what they want regardless of what those "close minded" throwbacks to dark ages think.

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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 02:49:35 PM »
I have noticed a problem like that with the words "Democracy," "Freedom," "Justice," "Community," and several others, but it doesn't involve abuses from the right side of the political spectrum.
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 02:52:35 PM »

The projection.  The projection.

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As for gay marriage, there's not a conservative anywhere that would stop two gay people from getting married. You want to get married? Find a Unitarian, Methodist or Episcopalian minister, or Alanis Morissette, to marry you. Invite friends & family, have a reception afterwards. Because that's real love and committment, sharing your love with family & friends. The fact that they don't do this pretty much sums up their motives.

Yep.  Has nothing whatsoever to do with rights. 
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 03:00:06 PM »
Dogwhistles ????? I use the democrat method.....a biscuit with gravy on it.
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Re: Those conservatives and their dogwhistles
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 05:31:24 PM »
It's because of the whole moaning about gay marriage and the fact that we think there are better alternatives than ripping a baby from your womb so you won't be "punished by a mistake". Well, the latter is just a continuation of the euginics Margaret Sanger started. Destroy the black family by removing the men from their lives and making the government their baby daddy. Of course, that's when you can't convince them to have as many abortions as possible. Just do everything you can to tear down strong black families and you can pretty much completely destroy their pride & influence.

Make them so dependent that they don't even know they're getting a substandard education and have become nothing more than a side note. Well, until there's an election, then they're taught to blame every other group except the ones who've dedicated a couple of centuries to finding ways to keep them on the plantation. Hell, even when those rich plantation owners owned slaves, there were ones that got to carry guns around the homestead. Now they're banned in almost all cities where they house their new slaves. Well, except if you're a gang member or drug dealer.

How about, instead of allowing the left to abort you out of existence, taking just a few months of responsibility to have the baby and give it up for adoption so that one of the families that's been on a waiting list forever can give your child a good life? But rights with responsibility don't exist on the dumbed down left.

As for gay marriage, there's not a conservative anywhere that would stop two gay people from getting married. You want to get married? Find a Unitarian, Methodist or Episcopalian minister, or Alanis Morissette, to marry you. Invite friends & family, have a reception afterwards. Because that's real love and committment, sharing your love with family & friends. The fact that they don't do this pretty much sums up their motives.

Straight people are forced to get a stupid piece of paper from the government. It's none of their business. If the left TRULY wanted to set people free (regardless of whether they're strait or LGBTQXYZ or furrie) then they'd be proposing a flat tax for everyone to completely take the government out of people's private lives. There wasn't one time during my wedding when I thought "Damn, I'm SO glad I had the privilege of paying for the government seal of approval of our committment to each other!" Cuz, really, isn't that why we buy the dress & the cake and require the men in the wedding part to wear colors they'd never normally be caught dead in? Yep, government "acceptance", that's what straight people are celebrating!

But of course, then gay people wouldn't need the left because they wouldn't be victims any longer, so a common sense solution to the issue simply can't happen. And it would require they understand the true meaning of tolerance: you live your life and I'll stay yours & you can stay out of mine. If a deeply religious person thinks gay marriage is a sin, so be it because they wouldn't be having it shoved down their throat. If a gay person thinks conservative Christians are narrow minded bigots, that's cool too, because the alternative lifestyle folks would have the freedom to do what they want regardless of what those "close minded" throwbacks to dark ages think.

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Some things I will never understand is why people that feel they are different and proud of it demand to  follow the traditions of those they feel different from.

Example -----Marriage that mimics down to the flower girl a heterosexual wedding ????  Wedding rings on left hand, adopting or getting medical assisted or turkey baster pregnancy's, the whole child raising bit.

Why not develop their OWN traditions, wear their wedding rings on their right hand, Get a civil agreement. This has to be all about money unless these are Born Again Gays that use to be heterosexuals that have children, what on earth do they want kids for ???    Are these Gays much like the heterosexuals that want a child to keep the marriage together ???

Geese so many want Government goodies  and others money,and now they want Children from others.

Yes I am confused with the Gay Comunity that is oh so proud of their sex life yet want to live in a make believe world that they are the same as straights.  Seems like they want to be accepted for being 'different' yet also want to live the same life as others that are different from them.   

Sorry at my age it is hard to understand the creeping acceptance and denial that all is not well nothing has changed and do my best to not adapt my morals to the excepted morals of the day.   

Mom asked me the other day why people don't get married anymore, I replied that lots of Gays want to.