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Offline thundley4

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A Chicago Divided by Killings
« on: January 03, 2013, 04:50:25 PM »
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A New York Times analysis of homicides and census data in Chicago compared areas near murders to those that were not. Residents living near homicides in the last 12 years were much more likely to be black, earn less money and lack a college degree.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?smid=tw-share

I'm surprised that the NY Slimes would print something that points to the racial divide of criminals.

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 05:23:22 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?smid=tw-share

I'm surprised that the NY Slimes would print something that points to the racial divide of criminals.

Oh, no. The Slimes, like all liberal rags, will take the approach of, "In order to fix this, we have to ramp up the 'War on Crime.' More money is what we need -- we've got to clean up the ghettos, build new projects, give them money so that they don't have to kill each other. After all, the poor little dears are just trying to make ends meet and they can't. So we have to help them."

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 07:05:40 PM »
Eupher's right - all they are saying when they print stuff like that is that it's all Whitey's fault, more tax money will fix it.
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 07:47:21 PM »
I say send in ammo and firearms and let them clean up their own problems.

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 12:48:19 PM »
Interesting metric here and the lunacy of the left:

Via Instapundit, this really shouldn’t come as much of a shock.  That’s actually been true for decades. ABC’s Chicago affiliate runs the numbers and informs its viewers that the numbers today, as bad as they are, are still an improvement from the previous generation.  But are these numbers deceptive?

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In this I-Team report, Chicago’s rising murder rate in a new context, how the numbers of shooting deaths compare to the city’s most notorious crime era, the one that has tarnished Chicago’s reputation around the world for a century.

The surprising stats show the city is worse off now in the category of murder than at the height of the era that has driven Chicago’s reputation for almost a century, Capone’s “gangland” Chicago. …

The 42 murders in January is nowhere near the most ever in a month, but even that figure is not from the rat-a-tat-tat years. It is from the early 90s, when police also said a mix of gangs and drugs fueled the tremendous number of killings.

In January 1992 there were 77 murders in Chicago. That is the January record. Most of the murders then and this year were with guns. That was also the case in 1929.

Of course, the ABC report uses the number of murders without taking into consideration the crime rate, which is a calculation made on population size.  Chicago still has one of the worst murder rates in the nation, if not the worst, but has the population of the city changed enough to vary the rate?  According to Boston University … no.  The Census population of Chicago in 1920 was 2,701,705, and in 1990 it was only 82,000 more at 2,783,726.  According to the Census Bureau now, it’s 2,695,598 — almost exactly what it was in Capone’s heyday.

The point about gun control made in the clip is still valid, either way — the heavy gun-control regime of the city hasn’t done much to lower the murder rate or overall number of murders.

David Axelrod blames the suburbs, or something:

Axelrod blathering at the link

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“We live in Chicago, and one of the reasons we have such a huge problem in this city is that all around us are areas with weak laws and with very lax background checks and a lot of illegal guns flow into this city,” Axelrod told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. “Every law enforcement official will tell you that.”

Meanwhile, Jesse Jackson wants Barack Obama to focus on his adopted home town, and to send in the feds (via Javier Manjarres):

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Before a march on the city’s South Side, Jackson, a former Democratic presidential candidate, said America’s third most populous city needed more help than Mayor Rahm Emanuel and police superintendent Garry McCarthy could offer.

“When the president shows up, it shows ultimate national seriousness,” said Jackson, a Chicago resident. He also called for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to help patrol the streets of Chicago.

Gun violence in Chicago has been in the national spotlight over the past year, with 506 murders in 2012, an increase of 17 percent from the previous year. As of Thursday, there were 42 homicides and 157 shootings so far this year, according to Chicago police.

Those darned suburbs!

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 01:43:21 PM »
I say send in ammo and firearms and let them clean up their own problems.

I'vd said that for years, but behind razor wire topped chain link fences so none can escape.
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 01:48:36 PM »
Well, just mail all of them a college diploma .....that will fix the problem.

Isn't that what the Slimes is leading up to? More money down the rat hole called education.
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 01:50:29 PM »
Chicago will be racially divided for longer than any member here is alive.
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 03:09:30 PM »
A friend here said that she lived in Chicago in the late 60's. When she took the L to work downtown from the burbs, she was told not to sit on one side of the train. She said that she had been wondering why it was crowded on one side and empty on the other. It turned out that when they went by the projects, the folks were shooting into the train.

Doesn't look like they've made much progress. And they wonder why people want to live in the burbs!!!

It's the same in St Louis. You couldn't have paid me to live in the actual City of St Louis. The murder rate is high there, too. It was the burbs all the time for me.

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 05:04:14 PM »
Today's Wall Street Journal reports the plan of the Chicago Police Department to not respond to non-emergent calls in order to address the rise of homicides. 

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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 10:12:16 AM »
Even though I'm a tad late to the party, I say we take off and nuke Chicago from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure. :fuelfire: 
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 11:32:08 AM »
All city employees, from garbage collectors to police/firefighters to city attorneys to mayor, are required to live within the city limits of Chicago.

When my brother was living in the city, prior to 3yrs ago, he lived NW and only a couple of blocks within the city limits. The chief of police lived in his neighborhood. My brother's house - 25' wide lot but deep - 1700SF 2 story that was not only old but basically only 1 room wide - sold for around $625K. It was listed for $649900, and was only on the market about 2 weeks, even with the housing market crashing. It was considered a "safe neighborhood", kids played out on the street, people walked their dogs late into the evening.

At the time, I couldn't understand how the houses could be that expensive. It's not hard to understand now. Safety is very expensive!
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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 11:35:31 AM »
The Mexican drug cartels run Chicago.  Nothing much will change until they address that simple fact.  

I wouldn't be surprised to find that people in high positions look the other way, or are on the take, just like at the border.



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Re: A Chicago Divided by Killings
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 11:38:20 AM »
All city employees, from garbage collectors to police/firefighters to city attorneys to mayor, are required to live within the city limits of Chicago.

When my brother was living in the city, prior to 3yrs ago, he lived NW and only a couple of blocks within the city limits. The chief of police lived in his neighborhood. My brother's house - 25' wide lot but deep - 1700SF 2 story that was not only old but basically only 1 room wide - sold for around $625K. It was listed for $649900, and was only on the market about 2 weeks, even with the housing market crashing. It was considered a "safe neighborhood", kids played out on the street, people walked their dogs late into the evening.

At the time, I couldn't understand how the houses could be that expensive. It's not hard to understand now. Safety is very expensive!

Shotgun houses exist in the Big Easy and as far north as Shitcago.

I've heard that Rahm lives next door to this one:



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