http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022318984Oh my.
First up, the biggest apologist for Barack Milhous on Skins's island:
ProSense (93,989 posts) Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:09 PM
White House: Drone Strikes ‘Legal,’ ‘Ethical’ And ‘Wise’
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Tuesday addressed American drone strikes used to target enemies, after a memo outlining the legal basis for the U.S. to target American citizens who are senior al-Qaeda leaders was made public. Carney said President Obama takes his national security responsibilities "very seriously."
"These strikes are legal, they are ethical and they are wise," Carney said. The government takes "great care" when deciding where and whom to strike, he added.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/white-house-drone-strikes-legal-ethical-wise
It's a pretty big campfire, but first, to get these out of the way--
I strongly recommend one consult txradioguy's most-excellent thread stickied to the top of the DUmpster, for a better idea of what's going on here.amandabeech (8,069 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:14 AM
46. Report back to your masters, ProSense.
Many hard-core Dems are not amused, and many are undoubtedly wondering where our party went.
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:18 AM
48. Actually, "Report back to your masters, ProSense."
...I wasn't making a joke. Are you OK?
Flashback: Russ Feingold 'Pleased' Anwar Al-Awlaki Was Taken Out By Drone Strike
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022319856
amandabeech (8,069 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:27 AM
52. I'm perfectly capable of forming my own opinions.
Russ Feingold doesn't speak forI me or for others here who are extremely up in arms over the Obama administrations's position here.
We were just as upset with Bush and would be with any administration who treats our Constitution and the basic idea of our country with such contempt.
We don't need anyone to think for us, and your idea that we should just roll over and play dead because Russ Feingold doesn't agree with us is ridiculous and insulting.
Like I said.
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:31 AM
57. Wait, "We don't need anyone to think for us, and your idea that we should just roll over and play dead because Russ Feingold doesn't agree with us is ridiculous and insulting. "
...more "ridiculous and insulting" than this condescending piece of drivel:
"Report back to your masters, ProSense."
As for this: "I'm perfectly capable of forming my own opinions"
...then why are you referring to yourself as "we"?
amandabeech (8,069 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:33 AM
60. That there might be some organized resistance to the White Paper's conclusions scares you, doesn't it?
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:35 AM
63. Now, you're telling jokes?
amandabeech (8,069 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:37 AM
64. It's 12:36 am.
I'm up with a bad cold and cough.
What's your excuse?
What is it, ProSense never sleeps?
WillyT (43,468 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:46 AM
69. ProSense Defends The Administration... NO... MATTER... WHAT !!!
Logical (6,852 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:47 AM
70. So true. Almost a parody at this point!
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:51 AM
73. You forgot
"ProSense Defends The Administration... NO... MATTER... WHAT !!!"
...from terrorists.
Maybe I'm practicing my debate skills. You ever notice that I never post comments like the one above, that is: WillyT is this or that!
Maybe you should try defending your opinion and stop worrying about me defending mine. The moment you can't, you start mentioning my screen name. Why is that?
WillyT (43,468 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:54 AM
77. Have YOU... EVER... Had A Problem With The Obama Administration... And Posted It Here ???
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:57 AM
78. Is that
"Have YOU... EVER... Had A Problem With The Obama Administration... And Posted It Here ???"
...a pre-requisite? I'm here to debate, not necessarily to agree with you. Why are you here?
amandabeech (8,069 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:07 AM
82. Well, I think that Willy T has a good question.
Any presidential administration has policies on many, many subjects. There are so many fields that are covered by federal regulation that any one person is bound to have disagreements with something.
It was Will Rogers who said something like, "I'm a Democrat . . . I belong to no organized political party."
Well, at least that's what the poster given to me by a good friend says.
I take Rogers's comment to mean that the Dem party has an big, open tent where many voices are valued, unlike the small, closed tent of our opponents.
It's not surprising, then, in a historical sense that so many of us here on DU do have differences with the Obama administration positions or with Dem party positions on certain topics.
That's what makes discussions here on DU so much fun, outside the dreary election blackouts.
Like Willy T, I don't recall you, ProSense, ever having any disagreement whatsoever with the Obama administration, although I do admit that I had you on ignore for a few months. I don't intend to do that again. You're my source for the current administration position. Please don't tell me that I can't rely on you for that anymore.
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:14 AM
84. Like I said, "Like Willy T, I don't recall you, ProSense, ever having any disagreement whatsoever with the Obama administration, although I do admit that I had you on ignore for a few months. I don't intend to do that again. You're my source for the current administration position. Please don't tell me that I can't rely on you for that anymore."
...so? I mean, if you want to confuse me with the administration, that's your choice. I never understand why these announcements matter in terms of making an argument on the topic at hand. They smell like red herrings.
WillyT (43,468 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:17 AM
85. Oh C'Mon Pro... There Has To Be At Least ONE Example You Can Give Us ???
Break down...
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:25 AM
90. Who are you
"Oh C'Mon Pro... There Has To Be At Least ONE Example You Can Give Us ???"
...imitating: Ted Cruz or Joe McCarthy?
There are no examples. Now what?
Can you debate someone who you don't agree with and not pull a Ted Cruz?
WillyT (43,468 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:47 AM
103. No... It Was A Perfectly Straight Question
Maven (7,699 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:18 AM
87. Ridiculous and insulting is her specialty.
ProSense (93,989 posts) Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:27 AM
92. "Report back to your masters, ProSense."
That the comment I responded to.
"Ridiculous and insulting is her specialty."
What's yours?
After which the ProSense primitive, unable to handle it, runs away.
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mike_c (31,251 posts) Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:12 PM
1. atrocity....
Well, yes, that's all fine and good, it is an atrocity, and one's compelled to agree with the mike_c primitive.
However, it appears another atrocity's being overlooked.
franksolich had an opportunity to observe the bare naked ass of the mike_c primitive, and trust me, it would make even the most hardened, seen-it-all, proctologist turn green and upchuck.
Probably the mike_c primitive would've been better off being more inhibited.