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More global warming BS.
« on: November 01, 2012, 07:34:15 PM »
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2012 is the year we learned Climate Change is Real. 2013 will be the year we get Sticker Shock.


 
So now you're convinced. Climate Change is real and we better address the issue.

Great.

Now, we have to figure out what is necessary. And that ALL depends on what CO2 level is beneath the various tipping points in the climate systems.

What tipping points? See this video:

 

Three numbers: 350, 450 and 550. Those are parts-per-million figures for carbon. 350 is what Bill McKibbon and Jim Hansen believe is the danger threshold for carbon. 450 is what the IPCC has been and will probably continue to use as the basis for suggested governmental action. 550 or more is what the Big Oil lobby wants to push.

Today, we're at 391.07 ( see: http://co2now.org/)

If 350 is correct, we will need to radically restructure of our society to address the issue.

If 450 is correct, we might, might, be able to stay under the limit by aggressive-but-not-radical industrial and social changes.

If 550 is correct, we can burn all the cheap oil and change sometime before we need to go to, say, shell oil.

The problem is that while 450 and 550 might be politically expedient, 350 looks to be the actual answer. And while on most issues a "the perfect is the enemy of the good" philosophy kind of works, on this issue it's deadly.

More later. Even an overview of the cluster of issues that surround Climate Change is more than one post can contain. But I'm warning you: this will NOT be easy. And when the costs of addressing Climate Change start to come out, you can expect a push-back.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021686919

Tell you what DUmmies quit using and electricity, walk everywhere you go, and most importantly quit breathing, every time you breathe out you add CO2 to the atmosphere.

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11. There is only one way to do that

Find an energy source they can obtain and use that costs less than coal or gas

When they have one and it actually works we will jump on board. We are not going to jump on the bandwagon until the bandwagon has been built.

Now for a disgusting post from that moron Taverner.

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21. I would LOVE to see population reduction. However, it ain't gonna happen...

As long as we still have religion.

Do your part Tavs kill yourself, not only will you reduce the population, but you won't have to deal with any of that pesky religion. God will be nowhere to found where you are going.

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 07:54:54 PM »
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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 08:03:05 PM »
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21. I would LOVE to see population reduction. However, it ain't gonna happen...

As long as we still have religion. Has nothing to do with it.
You first, tavernturd. Put yer money where yer mouth is, DUmbass.
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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 08:07:18 PM »
The savages in NY/NJ are drastically reducing their carbon footprint this week.

How do they like it?

Shouldn't be another storm all winter, thanks to their sacrifice.

Thanks, NY/NJ DUmpmonkeys!

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 08:08:02 PM »
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"the perfect is the enemy of the good"

I keep seeing this phrase by Voltaire being used on the island, though I believe the correct version is "The best is the enemy of the good."

It matters not.  The hard-core cultists use it to try and justify why Dear Leader didn't fulfil all he promised by saying that when perfect wasn't achievable, he settled for what he could get.

Could you imagine having a surgeon with that attitude?  You wanna go under the knife with him in charge?

I never see the primitives talk about how they would get China, India, etc... to stop expelling CO2.  Most I've seen from any lib sources is some type of UN resolution and fines imposed, but that's a laugh.

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 08:09:51 PM »
Tell ya what primitive - bring that speech to NYC and the Jersey Shore and tell those people how awesome it is they have stopped polluting mutha earf with all that nasty petroleum & coal based energy, then post on DU about how it went, mmmkay ?
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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 08:11:52 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on November 01, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
I keep seeing this phrase by Voltaire being used on the island, though I believe the correct version is "The best is the enemy of the good."

It matters not.  The hard-core cultists use it to try and justify why Dear Leader didn't fulfil all he promised by saying that when perfect wasn't achievable, he settled for what he could get.

Could you imagine having a surgeon with that attitude?  You wanna go under the knife with him in charge?

I never see the primitives talk about how they would get China, India, etc... to stop expelling CO2.  Most I've seen from any lib sources is some type of UN resolution and fines imposed, but that's a laugh..
American tax payers are supposed to pay a global tax so they don't "need" to devistate the rain forest.
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John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 08:16:19 PM »
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21. I would LOVE to see population reduction. However, it ain't gonna happen...


I would too. Imagine that dummie!!! You and me agreeing. Dogs and cats, sleeping together and all that.

So what to do, what to do, dummie. OK. Lets do what they do in communist countries, since that seems to be what you dummies advocate. The first thing they do is stand the non-producers, the ne'er do wells, the parasites, the net takers, the useful idiots, etc, up against the execution wall or put them in a work camp.

Sounds good to me!!!

Let's start tonite!!!

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 08:17:48 PM »
Quote from: Skul on November 01, 2012, 08:11:52 PM
American tax payers are supposed to pay a global tax so they don't "need" to devistate the rain forest.

Ahh, the "let's bleed a turnip" solution.

I'm more than confident that to the libs that's considered to be a highly intelligent and worthwhile project.

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Re: More global warming BS.
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 08:25:50 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on November 01, 2012, 08:17:48 PM
Ahh, the "let's bleed a turnip" solution.

I'm more than confident that to the libs that's considered to be a highly intelligent and worthwhile project..
Absolutely, sir. After all, those of us that work, must pay for those that do not.
Doesn't matter what part of the world we live in...we must pay.
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”
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