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primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« on: September 25, 2012, 06:53:21 PM »
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Texasgal (12,263 posts)   Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:22 PM

Any ideas on how to clean textured popcorn on the ceiling? I know that I should just scrape it off and paint but I do not have the money nor the time right now. It's especially bad in the kitchen above the stove top. 

Any ideas?

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Betsy Ross (2,785 posts)   Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

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Popcorn ceilings often contain asbestos.  DO NOT try to remove it without testing for asbestos. It is extremely toxic. We had it removed from two rooms. They sealed off the rest of the house and used the front porch for the decontamination room. Serious stuff.

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Warpy (64,811 posts)   Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:10 PM

2. There is absolutely no way to clean it which is why people hate it and scrape it down ASAP when they move into a house that has it.

Modern "popcorn" is Perlite mixed into the paint. It is not particularly high in asbestos but scraping it off is a messy and dusty procedure and requires a face mask. It's nasty to inhale volcanic glass, which is basically what it is.

Popcorn that was applied before about 1975 could possibly contain asbestos and has to be tested. If your house was built after 1975, you're home free and only have to put up with the mess, not hire an asbestos abatement crew.

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northoftheborder (2,704 posts)   Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:37 PM

3. took popcorn off the ceiling this way:

I sold my home earlier in this year. Before doing so, various repairs were made, mainly painting, new flooring, etc.., including taking off the popcorn. My painter just sprayed it with water and scraped it off. (Built in '83, so no asbestos involved.) It is water soluble (unless it has also been painted, (mine hadn't), and was messy, but it was quickly removed, and the ceilings retaped and painted. No fumes or powder involved.

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Viva_La_Revolution (26,038 posts)  Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:23 PM
 
4. actually, I think it's easier if it has been painted

you just have to use a little more water and let it sit a few minutes. Cleanup is much easier cause it comes off in sheets

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mopinko (38,956 posts)  Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:33 PM

5. i wonder if you could use a steamer

because i bought a really great one, and everything i have to clean i wonder if i can clean it with the steamer. (a wagner)
seriously, it will melt off the grease without really touching it. you will probably need to sponge it off, but....

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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 07:01:34 PM »
I have done about 60% of my house so far.  First bedroom was a learning experience.  Finished basement with bedroom and bathroom were much better.  Lots of plastic on the walls and floor.  Garden sprayer with warm water, 6" plastic putty knife.  Very time consuming, but with 2 people, it is not bad.  Looks alot better without it.  Still kicking myself for the answer I gave the builder when he asked if I wanted textured ceilings or not.  Lesson learned.
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 07:10:26 PM »
The parents of my best friend in high school had popcorn ceiling with sparkles in it. The house was built in the late 60's, it was horrendous. The last time I visited her and we went to her parents house (about three years ago) their ceiling still hadn't been painted. They both smoke, add years of cobwebs and filth and it is a horrible sight.

This is what it must of looked like back in the day:



It didn't look this bad but I would spend every waking moment taking down popcorn ceilings.

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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 08:15:13 PM »
I hate em too.  I only have popcorn in the sunroom.  It got damaged in the hail storm last October.  Guess who gets a new ceiling???   :-)
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 08:23:58 PM »
I actually sympathize with the (D)Ullards.  It can be a mess.  I am doing mine by simply gluing and screwing a second layer of 1/2" over the existing popcorned drywall.  Easy to finish out.  Added 3 1/2" Crown and .....viola done!  Use Extra Heavy Duty Liquid Nails and set 2" drywall screws every 4-6 inches.
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 08:42:49 PM »
Quote from: Doc Savage on September 25, 2012, 07:01:34 PM
I have done about 60% of my house so far.  First bedroom was a learning experience.  Finished basement with bedroom and bathroom were much better.  Lots of plastic on the walls and floor.  Garden sprayer with warm water, 6" plastic putty knife.  Very time consuming, but with 2 people, it is not bad.  Looks alot better without it.  Still kicking myself for the answer I gave the builder when he asked if I wanted textured ceilings or not.  Lesson learned.

Yeah, that's easy to do if you've never lived with one.  I can't believe anyone thought that stuff was aesthetically pleasing.

And if you have or are installing recessed lighting, it's ghastly.  The very light texturing (sand coat or light swirl coat) I could almost live with, but the popcorn just plain sucks.
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 09:10:06 PM »
Popcorn ceilings deserve to be killed with fire.
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 09:53:24 PM »
Quote from: miskie on September 25, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Popcorn ceilings deserve to be killed with fire.

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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 09:26:58 AM »
And whoever thought that sparkles in it would be doubleplusgood?   :mental:
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 10:28:46 AM »
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Betsy Ross (2,785 posts)   Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:29 PM

1. CAREFUL!!!!!!!

Popcorn ceilings often contain asbestos.  DO NOT try to remove it without testing for asbestos. It is extremely toxic. We had it removed from two rooms. They sealed off the rest of the house and used the front porch for the decontamination room. Serious stuff.

::) So put a ******* respirator on and wet it before removal! Jesus...people get really frickin silly about asbestos. If the home was built after 1979 it doesn't have asbestos in it. Don't know if anyone has ever had to hire an abatement crew but it's not cheap and everything they do you can do yourself! ::)
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 11:00:09 AM »
I built mine in 97 and I have the textured popcorn shit.  I want to get rid of it but I figure I will just burn down my house.  I am that lazy  :fuelfire:
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 04:41:24 PM »
Quote from: Gina on September 26, 2012, 11:00:09 AM
I built mine in 97 and I have the textured popcorn shit.  I want to get rid of it but I figure I will just burn down my house.  I am that lazy  :fuelfire:

Quote from: miskie on September 25, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Popcorn ceilings deserve to be killed with fire.

And, there you have it. Popcorn ceilings deserve to be killed with fire.   :-)
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 05:40:33 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on September 25, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
...I can't believe anyone thought that stuff was aesthetically pleasing.

It wasn't a matter of aesthetics.  Popcorn ceilings exist as a matter of acoustics (they absorb and scatter sound energy like a stealth fighter's RAM will absorb and scatter radar energy).
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on September 26, 2012, 05:40:33 PM
It wasn't a matter of aesthetics.  Popcorn ceilings exist as a matter of acoustics (they absorb and scatter sound energy like a stealth fighter's RAM will absorb and scatter radar energy).

I think the acoustic effect is secondary to many of the contractors who installed popcorn ceilings. I believe the majority of them were installed to hide crappy work. Cracks, seams, dents, etc. all vanish beneath a layer of inverted new-fallen "snow".
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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 05:59:16 PM »
Quote from: miskie on September 26, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
I think the acoustic effect is secondary to many of the contractors who installed popcorn ceilings. I believe the majority of them were installed to hide crappy work. Cracks, seams, dents, etc. all vanish beneath a layer of inverted new-fallen "snow".

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A popcorn ceiling, also known as cottage cheese ceiling or more accurately an acoustic ceiling, is a term for a spray-on or paint-on ceiling treatment used from...

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Re: primitive wants to clean popcorn off ceiling
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 06:08:10 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on September 26, 2012, 05:59:16 PM
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I just hit up the Nadin engine and found this.. WARNING: if one believes in honest work, and doing a job right the first time, this thread may fill one with rage. Its about using popcorn to hide crappy work - on the so-called 'Home Owners Hub'.. Probably not the best place to go for advice.

http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/bad-mud-tape-job-on-ceiling-need-help-94148-.htm
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