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pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« on: September 25, 2012, 06:45:18 PM »
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Oh my.

The poor pilgrim primitive, another denizen of the mental health forum on Skins's island.

This has been up for some hours, and no primitive's dropped by this campfire to help.

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HereSince1628 (23,848 posts)   Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:38 PM

Need advice on a car problem...re front tire/wheel/????

I've got a 15 year old Escort wagon...it's old--old enough for flexible synthetic parts to have lost all the solvents that kept them young and supple and old enough for unpainted steel parts to be heavily rusted. You might say the car and I emulate one another...but that's not the issue...

Last week I had a steel belt on a front tire break. It was the first time I'd ever had a belt come apart and tear up a tire. But the tire was needing to be replaced, the separation in the belt was in a heavily worn part of the tire...I thought nothing of it.

This morning I went out to the car and the new tire, on same wheel, on the same front position was flat.

Now that's also a first for me. I've never had a 10 day old tire with maybe a couple hundred miles on it go flat. Is this more than coincidence?

The dealer broke down the wheel and tire, inspected everything, pronounced the tire free from punctures, but wasted, they decided the wheel was fine, and they replaced the tire for free. That was great

...but...

At my now advanced age, firsts are rare. Two firsts in under two weeks...on basically the same problem seems an improbable coincidence.

So I'm asking for some advice. What might have developed on my old car that would make both an old tire and new tire on the same location of the car fail? Something that might not be the tire or the wheel proper?

I gave this some thought and came up with a hung brake caliper, with the resulting drag possibly over-heating the wheel and transferring that heat to the tire, but the car doesn't pull when I accelerate, coast, or brake, and after a couple of miles driving in town--with the hub caps off--both front wheels were warm, but not so hot that it was uncomfortable for my hand.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 07:36:46 PM »
The competition is fierce, it's red hot, but this may be the stupidest DUmp post of 2012.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 07:44:24 PM »
These people should not be unsupervised. Still maintain that the DUmp should be shutdown because of the threat to society of having all the mentally ill people communicating with each other and enabling/reinforcing their mental disorders. The DUmp's island of misfit people are being hurt by the ability to think they are part of a larger part of civilized society.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 07:52:15 PM »
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Last week I had a steel belt on a front tire break. It was the first time I'd ever had a belt come apart and tear up a tire. But the tire was needing to be replaced, the separation in the belt was in a heavily worn part of the tire...I thought nothing of it.

that's bound to happen when you let the tread wear down so much you are riding on the steel belt.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 08:09:01 PM »
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flexible synthetic parts to have lost all the solvents that kept them young and supple

WTF??? Solvents in DUmmie land are now used to keep parts young and supple?
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 08:14:03 PM »
A brake caliper? :lmao:

I had a similar problem recently.  It turned out to be a damaged valve stem.  I paid nothing to have it replaced.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 08:32:54 PM »
Hello HereSince1628 primitive,

DUmp Heloise here!  What a tricky problem, but an easy fix! You simply want to make sure that gravity is acting as a constant on the entire surface of the tire.  

First, we need to get your Escort's transmission into diagnostic mode.  To find the diagnostic mode, move your shifter knob until it is lined up with 'D', for, you guessed it, 'diagnostic'.  Then, and this is the important part, stick your head on the pavement, and align it with the contact patch of the tire.  

Now, have your friend mash the gas pedal.  You will be able to tell pretty quickly if gravity is acting as a constant on your whole tire.

~Dump Heloise
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 08:41:31 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on September 25, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
~Dump Heloise
So helpful! :II:

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I gave this some thought
lol.

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and came up with a hung brake caliper, with the resulting drag possibly over-heating the wheel and transferring that heat to the tire, but the car doesn't pull when I accelerate, coast, or brake, and after a couple of miles driving in town--with the hub caps off--both front wheels were warm, but not so hot that it was uncomfortable for my hand.
1+1=potato
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 08:45:11 PM »
There's one DUmp reply.  It's some guy complaining about dealerships.

I take my wheels to people who specialize in wheels.  That's why they're in business.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 08:54:44 PM »
Seriously, I was a bit mean in my last reply.

This is clearly some kind of tire problem that can only be diagnosed with an over pressure test.  While most tires have what is called a load pressure it is the burst pressure that is really important.

1. Go to gas station that still has free air of a shop compressor. I'm pretty sure that all Dummys know where the FREE shop air is soI won't tell them how to googlemap.

2. Fill up your tire to between 120 and 125 PSIG. In fact, if you have one problem tire it is best to check all of them. So fill up all the tires to that pressure.

3. Put your head near the tires and listen for leaks.

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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 09:11:58 PM »
I can actually think of one component of a car that could cause a brand new tire to be ruined...the DRIVER.   :-)
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 09:35:26 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on September 25, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
I can actually think of one component of a car that could cause a brand new tire to be ruined...the DRIVER.   :-)

The nut behind the wheel.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 09:46:10 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on September 25, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
The nut behind the wheel.

And the pilgrim primitive's a nut all right.

He's one of the regulars in the mental health forum.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 09:47:37 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 25, 2012, 09:46:10 PM
And the pilgrim primitive's a nut all right.

He's one of the regulars in the mental health forum.
He sounds entirely useless.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 09:49:44 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on September 25, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
He sounds entirely useless.

I think that's the one who was once a bona fide college professor, before he went nuts.

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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2012, 09:50:03 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 25, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
I think that's the one who was once a bona fide college professor, before he went nuts.
Well, that answers my question.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2012, 09:52:46 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on September 25, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
Well, that answers my question.

He's actually a pretty sad case, and generally I've discouraged him being quoted here, as he doesn't politicize his plight, like the subway cat or the Las Vegas Leviathan do.

But this was in the "do it yourself" forum, outside of the mental health forum, so I felt okay about it.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2012, 10:19:08 PM »
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Fill up your tire to between 120 and 125 PSIG. In fact, if you have one problem tire it is best to check all of them. So fill up all the tires to that pressure.
If you do that, you'll get one hell of a harsh ride, and rapid wear in the center of the tread, but the tire won't fail.

The burst strength of a typical, properly-mounted passenger tire is over 200 psi, when the bead breaks. You do not want to be nearby.

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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 02:55:12 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 25, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
I think that's the one who was once a bona fide college professor, before he went nuts.



How could you tell?

That he went nuts, that is.   :lmao:

Sounds like moonbat DUmmie DROVE the car with the flat tire to the tire shop:

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The dealer broke down the wheel and tire, inspected everything, pronounced the tire free from punctures, but wasted.

The dealer COULD have been talking about the pilgrim DUmmie as well.  Who knows?   :lmao:
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 03:07:01 AM »
I do feel sorry for the person in the OP that suffers from the mental illness.

The good news is DU gives him something to do and keeps him busy.

The tire could of had a leak due to a bad rim, or like Chris said, the stem. It sounds like the problem is fixed. Things like this are a major deal with someone with mental issues.

Hopefully the tire is flat on election day.  O-)
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »
The most common way to slip a belt is ride around with low tire pressure.
Waking up to a flat new tire means the Tire Leprechauns have been out that night. DUmmie, if you go look you have clover in your yard. Start really searching hard and see if you can find the 4 leafed one and pick it, they'll go away, unless there's 2. If so then you're screwed.  :-)
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2012, 11:52:14 AM »
Tire belts are the least of his worries.
If it's a '97 or newer, better be thinking of a timing belt change if it hasn't been done.
Losing that belt will probably cost him the vehicle.

If any DUmmies are lurking, you might do that guy a favor, and inform him of such.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2012, 11:54:32 AM »
Quote from: Skul on September 26, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Tire belts are the least of his worries.
If it's a '97 or newer, better be thinking of a timing belt change if it hasn't been done.
A 15-year-old Escort wagon is worth less than the cost of changing a timing belt, especially considering this DUmpmonkey could never figure out how to open the hood.
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Re: pilgrim primitive has automobile tire problem
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2012, 05:37:29 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 25, 2012, 06:45:18 PM
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Oh my.

The poor pilgrim primitive, another denizen of the mental health forum on Skins's island.

This has been up for some hours, and no primitive's dropped by this campfire to help.

Anybody here know?



I do not usually do this for dummies...BUT....To really test this for the best results, drive around town for 1 hour pumping the brakes often. Then remove the tire and press you tongue on the caliper. Please relay your results
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