primitives discuss.....oh, whatever it was.....OSW? SWO? OWS?

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021103978

Oh my.

jillan (30,052 posts)

OWS has meant just as much - if not more- than the teabagger movement to politics...

This was thought just discussed on the Stephanie Miller Show...

What did OWS accomplish? They changed the entire subject in politics to Income Inequality.
The 99% vs the 1%. And that message stuck, imho alot more than people running around with teabags hanging from their hats and threatening 2nd amendment remedies.

Enter Mitt Romney and his car elevators, dressage horse, off shore bank accounts.

It's no wonder people can't stand Mitt and his snooty better than you attitude.

I would love to see 99% of Americans vote against Mitt, but of course that won't happened. 43% of Americans have been brainwashed to vote against their own best interests.

IF President Obama wins by a large % in November, I think we need to thank OWS.

1-Old-Man (354 posts)

1. Really? I don't think they made any difference at all

I could walk up to the road and ask every person who drove by what OWS stood for and I'd be willing to bet that not one out of a hundred could tell me what it stood for. And if I asked them what Occupy Wall Street accomplished I'm sure I'd get blank stares too. Ask about the Tea Party and every single one of them will know what I'm talking about.

UnrepentantLiberal (6,596 posts)

2. What do they say when you're at Tea Party rallies?

CJCRANE (12,139 posts)

6. It's possible that it had a greater effect on politicians than on the average person.

1-Old-Man (354 posts)

24. That may be true, but I think there is a sign that it is not

I had hopes that OWS would change everything, but that certainly hasn't happened. It seems to me that if it effected the politicians then you would see comments about it prominent in the pre-election debate. But its not. Democrats don't mention it, Republicans don't mention it. So how much of an effect did it have? Republican obstruction in the Congress didn't relent a bit, the President did not direct Holder to prosecute the banksters, social justice was not improved. So just how much effect did OWS have? I say none.

coalition_unwilling (11,896 posts)

8. Are you saying that all those hours I spent at Occupy Los Angeles (and thinking and writing about it afterwards) were for nought? At a bare minimum, OLA recharged my revolutionary batteries (which were badly in need of a power boost) - OLA made me feel there was some hope for the human race after all. That's no small feat.

1-Old-Man (354 posts)

22. Yes, out here in the country you weren't even a blip on the radar

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive:

cali (72,657 posts)

11. nonsense. yes, coining the one percent line distilled the inequality argument, but that's really about it. If you think that they invented the argument, well, that's just absurd.

And Mitt's luggage would have been just as heavy without OWS.

But beyond that, the TP has taken, in large part, control of the republican party. At the very least they're a major influence. They've successfully run candidates.

OWS is not much of a movement and in politics it's but a very, very small influence.

Thank them if Obama wins? They'll have had virtually nothing to do with it.

I'm sorry, but your op is wishful thinking- fantasy.

Zalatix (6,677 posts)

23. Your argument is an exercise in SHEER DENIAL.

By moving the national political toward inequality and not the poor put-upon rich, OWS has laid the groundwork for Dems with a spine to make a major resurgence for working class advocacy.

OWS is holding the Democratic Party's feet to the fire.

cali (72,657 posts)

25. No, my argument is factual.

you're living in fantasy land if you believe that OWS is having a major influence on the dem party.

Zalatix (6,677 posts)

29. Your argument is as factual as Mitt Romney is a leftist.

cali (72,657 posts)

37. wow. couldn't possibly argue with that brilliant gem

I get a kick out of you.

Zalatix (6,677 posts)

42. Well hey at least my arguments don't come from Bizarro Land

onenote (20,475 posts)

46. Which of the following is true:

The TP has pushed many repubs and Democrats further to the right.

OWS has pushed many Democrats and Repubs further to the left.

Zalatix (6,677 posts)

48. OWS has pushed a number of Dems to the left.

Also, Elizabeth Warren is in full support of OWS.

NightWatcher (18,505 posts)

15. how many OWS representatives have been elected? 0

How many teabaggers have been elected? dozens

jillan (30,052 posts)

18. The teabaggers are heavily funded by the Koch Bros and more. OWS does not have the $ behind them.

It makes a big difference when you have millionaires buying your seat in Congress for you.

cali (72,657 posts)

19. sure, but that doesn't make the claim in your op any more accurate

the sad fact is that the TP has had and continues to have a far, far, far greater impact on the political front than OWS.

Southerner (82 posts)

27. Has the OWS movement figured out how to balance the budget?

IMHO, NOTHING else matters until we tackle that huge problem.

cali (72,657 posts)

28. that's an absurd non-sequitur

cecilfirefox (473 posts)

47. No, and drop the fantasy. One side mobilized and elected 60+ people to congress, the other side sang songs and sat in parks.

Really, really? I give them credit for coining the terms 99% and 1%, people know what that means now... But no, its not comparable. At. All.

badtoworse (2,605 posts)

52. So how many congressmen/women in their caucus?

[Mike220]

43% of Americans have been brainwashed to vote against their own best interests.

Man that phrase always pisses me off. Who do these idiots think they are that they, or the government, know what's in my best interests?

Stupid DUmmies.

[franksolich]

Man that phrase always pisses me off. Who do these idiots think they are that they, or the government, know what's in my best interests?

Stupid DUmmies.

I always wonder where the primitives get that percentage number.

[Undies]

I give them credit for coining the terms 99% and 1%, people know what that means now

No, they don't.  And to the ones that do, it's a punchline. 

[Freeper]

Man that phrase always pisses me off. Who do these idiots think they are that they, or the government, know what's in my best interests?

Stupid DUmmies.

Irks me too. The DUmmies, and some bureaucrat in Washington does NOT know my own self interests, I do, and 0bama has done nothing for my own self interests.

 

[98ZJUSMC]

 1-Old-Man (354 posts)

1. Really? I don't think they made any difference at all

I could walk up to the road and ask every person who drove by what OWS stood for and I'd be willing to bet that not one out of a hundred could tell me what it stood for. And if I asked them what Occupy Wall Street accomplished I'm sure I'd get blank stares too. Ask about the Tea Party and every single one of them will know what I'm talking about.

Tee-Hee.

  ecilfirefox (473 posts)

47. No, and drop the fantasy. One side mobilized and elected 60+ people to congress, the other side sang songs and sat in parks.

Really, really? I give them credit for coining the terms 99% and 1%, people know what that means now... But no, its not comparable. At. All.

Double Tee-Hee.

[jukin]

Irks me too. The DUmmies, and some bureaucrat in Washington does NOT know my own self interests, I do, and 0bama has done nothing for my own self interests.

 

Come on now!

Obama has lowered the average American's net worth by 40%.
Obama has doubled the number of people on food stamps.
Obama has added $60,000 of debt on to each taxpayer.
Obama made the average Canadian household richer than the average American household.
Obama has made a record number of non-millionaires (former millionaires that are no longer millionaires).
Obama has created a record number of Americans in poverty.
Obama has created a record number of IRS agents.
Obama has created a record number of bureaucrats.
Obama has created a record number of people on SSDI.
Obama has created the worst recovery in modern history.

All of that Obama has accomplished that while only borrowing $6 trillion dollars from our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, ...

You trying to tell me that all of the above has not been in your self interest?

[JohnnyReb]

Imho: When used by DUmmies, that means "In my horrible opinion".

[Delmar]

Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #1)Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:08 AM
 coalition_unwilling (11,910 posts)
8. Are you saying that all those hours I spent at Occupy Los Angeles (and

thinking and writing about it afterwards) were for nought? At a bare minimum, OLA recharged my revolutionary batteries (which were badly in need of a power boost) - OLA made me feel there was some hope for the human race after all. That's no small feat.

Yes coalition_unwilling, you have wasted your life. 

[thundley4]

What did OWS accomplish? They changed the entire subject in politics to Income Inequality.
The 99% vs the 1%.

No, they didn't do that.  Using class warfare has been a big part of the DemonRat playbook for decades.  To paraphrase Obumbler, "you didn't accomplish that, someone else did".

[Kyle Ricky]

jillan (30,052 posts)

Enter Mitt Romney and his car elevators, dressage horse, off shore bank accounts.

What you say about John 'F'n' Kerry, you stupid skanky clad fugly retarded douchebag..

jillan (30,052 posts)

18. The teabaggers are heavily funded by the Koch Bros and more. OWS does not have the $ behind them.

It makes a big difference when you have millionaires buying your seat in Congress for you.

Does George Soros ring a bell? You really are stupid, aren't you ?

Now for the truth:

What has the OWS accomplished?

1) Murders
2) Rape
3) Drug overdoses
4) vandalism
5) Property destruction
6) Beating people
7) Defecating cop cars
8) Breaking windows
9) Spreading deceases
10) Trashing where ever they were camping out at
11) Bigotry
12) Shottings
13) Stabbings
14) Window breaking

There is more, and more, and more, and more.

Now for a trick question - Name one time that anything mentioned above happen at a Tea-Party rally. That is o.k. I will wait for you liberals douchebags to check with MSNBC before you answer.

When it comes to anything people disagree with, the Conservatives are peaceful and clean; and the liberals are domestic terrorists who destroy anything they can get their hands on, up and including murdering people and burning down buildings.