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primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« on: August 05, 2012, 10:37:59 AM »
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The porcelain on my toilet bowl has worn away.

Is there any product or kit that I can use to re-apply the veneer?

You know, this is news to me.

I've never heard of porcelain "veneer."

I thought it was pure porcelain all the way through (the commode, not the bathtub).

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1. Do you want to refinish it, or just find a way to keep it clean?

My bathtub is in the same situation, the porcelain is worn off. I have looked into refinishing it, but I am not satisfied with what I have found. But I have found a way to keep it looking good and clean....after a million products. I get it looking as good as new with Bar Keepers Friend cleanser. I don't know what is different about this one, and I have tried so many cleansers, but this does the job---it is like it bleaches out the tub.

I know this isn't what you are looking for, but it is all I have to offer. I will be watching this for other suggestions that I might consider for the tub.

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2. I'd rather refinish it. Doesn't make sense to buy a new toilet for a swath about a 4 inch area.

But I do appreciate your answer.

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3. Bar Keepers Friend. Second that! It is great stuff.

I thought by tub needed to be resurfaced until folks on DU told me about this product. Cleaning took a while the first time with lime build up but since that initial scrub, the tub looks like new.

Works like a dream on Stainless too.

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4. I am one here who always raves about it.

(No, I don't own stock in the company and don't even know what company it is.)

It also works wonders on old Corningware. My old white Corningware was yellowing and had spots that were burned looking. Nothing worked. This is how I found out about it---my b-i-l was here and he would offer to do the dishes so my sister and I could chat. Well, he is the one who swore by it, and went and bought some so he could clean my Corningware and I was shocked. It looked like new!
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 10:46:34 AM »
Buy a new cheap toilet. Nothing is worse than a gross toilet.

We had the original bathtub (1940's) refinished (professionally) when my husband remodeled the bathroom in our house in CA. It looked brand new.

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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 10:53:12 AM »
Buy a new cheap toilet. Nothing is worse than a gross toilet.

We had the original bathtub (1940's) refinished (professionally) when my husband remodeled the bathroom in our house in CA. It looked brand new.

I had no idea about "porcelain veneer" on commodes.

Bathtubs, I always figured were just metallic with white enamel paint, much like those pots-and-pans of yore, where the white paint eventually wears off.

But I've seen busted-up commodes before, and to me at least, their interior seemed exactly the same as their exterior, shiny porcelain.
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 11:02:39 AM »
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The porcelain on my toilet bowl has worn away.

Is there any product or kit that I can use to re-apply the veneer?

If you go to the DUmp for do-it-yourself advice, you can't be trusted with hand tools or household chemicals. Save yourself a lot of grief, and an eye or two; buy a new toilet and pay someone competent to install it. Your other option is to spend less time staring into your toilet.

Then change your diet. No more pine cones or twigs. Carnivores don't have that problem.

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2. I'd rather refinish it. Doesn't make sense to buy a new toilet for a swath about a 4 inch area.

But I do appreciate your answer.

The thought of a 4 inch "swath" in the DUmmy's toilet made me queasy.
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 11:04:43 AM »
What is it?  A cast aluminum chamber pot with a porcelain veneer?   :-)

Toilets are generally cast in dense clay-like material with porcelain fired on to make the shiny white (or other color) finish.  That finish can be chipped away, but it will not "wear" away.

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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 11:16:26 AM »
What is it?  A cast aluminum chamber pot with a porcelain veneer?   :-)

Toilets are generally cast in dense clay-like material with porcelain fired on to make the shiny white (or other color) finish.  That finish can be chipped away, but it will not "wear" away.

Even if the toilet is solid clay, I guess one could wear through the glaze exposing the porous material underneath.  Then, if one went several years without cleaning said toilet, a permanent stain could develop. Personally, I would do everything I could to save the old unit as the new "green" toilets don't work worth a shit.

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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 11:17:07 AM »
I would bet that no_hypocrisy has been using his toilet to illegally dispose of hazardous household chemicals.  That would make him a big hypocrite.
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 11:20:26 AM »
Even if the toilet is solid clay, I guess one could wear through the glaze exposing the porous material underneath.  Then, if one went several years without cleaning said toilet, a permanent stain could develop. Personally, I would do everything I could to save the old unit as the new "green" toilets don't work worth a shit.

That's why I still have my original (to the house) 26 year old American Standards.

(Yes, BEG, they are clean as a whistle!)  :-)

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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 11:23:26 AM »
I went and examined the commode here.

It's a porcelain commode, and pretty ancient.

Clean and shiny as a whistle.

And so now I'm wondering if the primitive doesn't have something in her diet that, as it goes through the digestive system, turns into something that's corrosive to porcelain.  She should look at her diet.

I imagine the Las Vegas Leviathan's commode looks like shit.
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 11:50:31 AM »
I would bet that no_hypocrisy has been using his toilet to illegally dispose of hazardous household chemicals.  That would make him a big hypocrite.

I think you're onto something.
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 12:14:28 PM »
Ceramic/porcelain is the structure.
The shiney "vaneer' is glaze.
DUmmies, don't use sandpaper to clean the darn thing. Jeez. :banghead:
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Re: primitives discuss porcelain wearing away from commode
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 12:23:35 PM »
Even if the toilet is solid clay, I guess one could wear through the glaze exposing the porous material underneath.  Then, if one went several years without cleaning said toilet, a permanent stain could develop. Personally, I would do everything I could to save the old unit as the new "green" toilets don't work worth a shit.

That is what I think is going on.