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California Proposes Tax On Driving
« on: July 21, 2012, 04:12:42 PM »
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California Proposes Tax On Driving

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California Proposes Tax On Driving
GPS devices would record mileage and charge drivers accordingly

A California transportation agency recently proposed what could become the most unpopular tax of all time: A tax for simply driving your car.

The Metropolitan Transportation Commission of San Francisco is behind the idea and has said that the tax would work by installing GPS units into cars to track the miles that they travel. The vehicle owners would then be charged accordingly, with low-income drivers exempted.

The hope is that a VMT (vehicle miles traveled) tax would cut down on pollution and traffic congestion, while raising funds for things like road construction and surface repair.

Randy Rentschler, spokesman for the MTC, said that the group knew the proposal could be a longshot and could take a long time to implement. Theoretically, it could take up to a decade before the plan would be rolled out in full force.

"I don't want to say it's pie in the sky. A VMT charge is really an option for the future to be looked at and considered," he said.

Given the very low popularity gas taxes have been met with in the past, the proposed driving tax seems like a very bold move. Consumers hate frequently being reminded of taxes when they gas up, but this VMT charge would take that to a whole new level.

The Association of Bay Area Governments is slated to analyze a study of the proposal on Thursday.

California residents are sure to watch this one closely.


...Wow.

Not that I think this bill could ever get passed (it would be career suicide for whatever politicians voted it in), but just the implications of the government tracking everywhere we go is scary as hell.

It might inspire more people to take the bus though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002993467

And the DUmmies don't like it, yet not one of them will realize that this is a leftist idea. They vote for people who think like this, then get pissed when they do it.

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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2012, 04:15:56 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 21, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002993467

And the DUmmies don't like it, yet not one of them will realize that this is a leftist idea. They vote for people who think like this, then get pissed when they do it.



But, but, they were supposed to do that to OTHER people, not to US!!!!     :lmao:

No wonder we call them DUmbasses!   :lmao:
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2012, 04:19:14 PM »
They have to propose crap like this to force people onto the high speed rail that they approved that will end up bankrupting the state.

And even when that DOES happen California will still vote the Dems that did it to them right back into office.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2012, 04:22:24 PM »
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8. This is what registration is for

This is what tolls are for, **** them and their taxes. Just up the registration fees by $200 or $300 a year. As long as Ca keeps rejecting the legalization of Marijuana, no new taxes should be voted for. **** them.

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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 04:24:09 PM »
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Not that I think this bill could ever get passed (it would be career suicide for whatever politicians voted it in), but just the implications of the government tracking everywhere we go is scary as hell.

And just what do you believe will happen when the gov't starts paying for all your healthcare?  Are you so stupid to not realize they're going to track that as well?

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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2012, 04:24:29 PM »
Lurking DUmmies, do you really want the police to use GPS to learn where you buy drugs?

Unintended consequences, DUmmies.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2012, 04:25:02 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on July 21, 2012, 04:15:56 PM
But, but, they were supposed to do that to OTHER people, not to US!!!!     :lmao:

No wonder we call them DUmbasses!   :lmao:

You must have missed this line....

The vehicle owners would then be charged accordingly, with low-income drivers exempted.

DUmmies would be exemp....as usual the democrats buy votes with your money.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 04:39:16 PM »
What I love, is that all those idiots that bought volts & smart (?) cars to save on gas & gas taxes are going to get it in the ass.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2012, 04:41:28 PM »
Is the DUmmie saying that a DUmmie driving a prius a hundred miles will be taxed the same as a Hummer driver for the same distance?
Heh, suck it, DUmmies.  :lmao:
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2012, 04:45:28 PM »
Quote from: Skul on July 21, 2012, 04:41:28 PM
Is the DUmmie saying that a DUmmie driving a prius a hundred miles will be taxed the same as a Hummer driver for the same distance?
Heh, suck it, DUmmies.  :lmao:

That's funny right there!    :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2012, 04:54:31 PM »
Democrats are great explorers...always exploring for some new way or something new to tax.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2012, 04:56:45 PM »
With how long they been talking about doing this, I am surprised that it is getting pushed. It is just another way for the Dems to suck money out of people.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 04:58:11 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on July 21, 2012, 04:54:31 PM
Democrats are great explorers...always exploring for some new way or something new to tax.

When you think about it, Obamacare is just a way of taxing living, or to put it another way, taxing breathing.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 05:09:23 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 21, 2012, 04:58:11 PM
When you think about it, Obamacare is just a way of taxing living, or to put it another way, taxing breathing.

Yeppers...and we had to pass it to find out that was what it was...a new tax bill.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 05:15:15 PM »
Well, if you think about it; Dems are socialists/communists, so they would have find all kinds of different ways to tax people to pay for all their social needs. So taxing someone to breath is really nothing out of the ordinary.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2012, 06:25:19 PM »
"Low-income drivers excepted" multiplies the already-numerous ways to scam this by a factor of at least five.
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Re: California Proposes Tax On Driving
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 06:40:59 PM »
Let's see...they already have something like that...it's called the...get this... "GAS TAX!"

That is the "fairest" way of finding out how much you "drive" because gas is a fixed commodity. In fact, it is fairer than a VMT, because if you drive an SUV or GOP-type car like a V8, then you pay more per mile, while your Democrat-type car, the Yugo and the Prius, you pay less. So we ALREADY have a tax in place!

SO...what does the government REALLY WANT?

The government wants an itemized location record of EVERY TRIP YOU MAKE. In addition, such records may even be able to use for retroactive speeding tickets, or they can use it in any number of ways to screw you.

That's why VMT will never happen, even in Socialist California.



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