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10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« on: July 04, 2012, 08:25:45 PM »
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10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare

Email to as many people you know. Simple to understand.


http://www.alternet.org/news/156149/10_reasons_most_people_like_obamacare_once_they_know_what's_really_in_it

Because we're too stupid to understand what's in it, and we need you to explain it to us.  Is that about right?

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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 08:27:05 PM »
Who is going to read 2,700 pages ? Not Bela Pelosi, that's for sure.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 08:32:10 PM »
I heard a Doctor being interviewed on David Paterson's radio show, he said why do you think the Government is mandating a computerized medical records system? he said they won't come out and say it, but the only reason for it is "death panels", there will be Government Officials deciding who does and who doesn't get care.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 08:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 04, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
I heard a Doctor being interviewed on David Paterson's radio show, he said why do you think the Government is mandating a computerized medical records system? he said they won't come out and say it, but the only reason for it is "death panels", there will be Government Officials deciding who does or who doesn't get care.
THAT will be the only savings possible under owebumacare.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 08:35:32 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 04, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
I heard a Doctor being interviewed on David Paterson's radio show, he said why do you think the Government is mandating a computerized medical records system? he said they won't come out and say it, but the only reason for it is "death panels", there will be Government Officials deciding who does and who doesn't get care.

Yep. Those records will help determine who is a drain on society when single payer is finally forced upon us when the major insurance companies go bankrupt.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 08:36:51 PM »
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1. People Will Be Getting Checks
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2. The Richest Americans Are Going to Pay More Taxes
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3. Insurers' Overhead – and Profit Margins -- Are Limited
There's the first three--I didn't see the need to find out what the other seven were.  Should've called the article 10 Reasons Socialists Like The Obamacaretax.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 08:40:17 PM »
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1. People Will Be Getting Checks Employers will be getting checks, employees will get squat.
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2. The Richest Americans Are Going to Pay More Taxes Everyone that works for their pay will pay more in taxes.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 08:41:37 PM »
From number 1:
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Folks making up to four times the federal poverty line will be eligible for subsidies. In 2012, that would mean a family of four making up to $92,200 (it's a bit higher in Alaska) would see some cash.

Where is this money going to come from?
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 08:45:12 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on July 04, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
Where is this money going to come from?
We're going to borrow it from the Chinese. :whatever:
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 09:02:29 PM »
11. That it's going to be repealed Romney's first day in office.

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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 10:53:20 PM »
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11. That it's going to be repealed Romney's first day in office.

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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 05:49:16 AM »
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1. People Will Be Getting Checks

Call it a crazy hunch, but my guess is that the law will look a lot less tyrannical when people start getting checks in the mail to help pay for their insurance.

Folks making up to four times the federal poverty line will be eligible for subsidies. In 2012, that would mean a family of four making up to $92,200 (it's a bit higher in Alaska) would see some cash.

Those subsidies will come in the form of “advanceable” tax credits, meaning that people won't have to wait until they pay their taxes to get the cash, and they'll be fully refundable, so those who don't pay enough in federal income taxes will get a check in the mail from the IRS.


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2. The Richest Americans Are Going to Pay More Taxes

Wealthy investors are outraged, but most people probably don't know that a 3.8% surcharge on investment income – dividends and capital gains -- kicks in this January for everyone with an adjusted gross income of over $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers). So those currently enjoying the lowest rate on investments in our nation's history will pay for a decent chunk of the bill.

I won't know which of the above two "reasons" are more disturbing to me.  However, #10 wins the prize for top ramblings of the certifiable insane:

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10. It's Not So Easy to Repeal

There is no doubt that we'll hear lots of Republicans blustering about how they'll repeal Obamacare on day one if they win the White House and the Senate, but it's a lot less clear that they'd actually follow through.

As Igor Volsky notes, unless the Republicans were to win both the White House and a huge number of senate seats, they “can do little more than weaken Obamacare’s regulations and defund some of its provisions.” They also have nothing to replace it with, and would own our screwed up healthcare system for a generation. And they'd lose an issue that fires up the conservative base. They will, however, do their best to gum up the works as the law is implemented.

The takeaway to all of this is that the healthcare law is only going to get more popular as it's provisions kick in. People will see some tangible benefits, and the fearmongering will prove unfounded.

Like the idea of government itself, people are suspicious of the Affordable Care Act as an abstraction, but when it gets to the specifics they tend to like it a lot better.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 07:06:56 AM »
Not a lot of replies at the DUmp.  They're saying Meh. 

AND NOBODY'S GETTING A FREAKING CHECK, YOU IDIOTS. 

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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2012, 10:55:53 AM »
Only problem is most people (Approx 62%) want the law repealed and 85% are happy with the current system. So the whole thing is a lie.
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2012, 12:31:25 PM »
Quote from: Karin on July 05, 2012, 07:06:56 AM
Not a lot of replies at the DUmp.  They're saying Meh. 

AND NOBODY'S GETTING A FREAKING CHECK, YOU IDIOTS. 



This reminds me of after Obama got elected, and everyone thought they were gonna get a car, house, pony, unicorn, etc.....
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2012, 01:15:14 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on July 05, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
This reminds me of after Obama got elected, and everyone thought they were gonna get a car, house, pony, unicorn, etc.....

Well, The Gospel According to Peggy Joseph said so! :whatever:
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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2012, 01:21:29 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on July 05, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
This reminds me of after Obama got elected, and everyone thought they were gonna get a car, house, pony, unicorn, etc.....

I think the correct answer is that at KKKarl Rove's insistence George Bush saw too it that all the free stuff was given to the wealthy Joos via secret tax code manipulations conducted by the CIA.  They have deep plants at IRS as well who will be responsible for doing the same thing with the insurance checks.  Wait and see.  Bush and the Jooish Banksters will swoop in and steal their checks.   :whistling:

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Re: 10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2012, 09:27:27 PM »
The funny thing is, up until now the DUmmies howled about 0bamacare almost as much as we did, (for different reasons), now that the election is coming up they are all saying how great it is. What happened to this being a give away to the insurance companies?

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