Ted Kennedy and the KGB ,Why is this Critter not in prison for treason ?

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Ted Kennedy and the KGB   
 
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Paul Kengor, the author of the New York Times extended-list bestseller God and Ronald Reagan as well as God and George W. Bush and The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism. He is also the author of the first spiritual biography of the former first lady, God and Hillary Clinton: A Spiritual Life. He is a professor of political science and director of the Center for Vision and Values at Grove City College.
FP: Paul Kengor, welcome back to Frontpage Interview.
Kengor: Always great to be back, Jamie.

FP: We’re here today to revisit Ted Kennedy’s reaching out to the KGB during the Reagan period. Refresh our readers’ memories a bit.

Kengor: The episode is based on a document produced 25 years ago this week. I discussed it with you in our earlier interview back in November 2006. In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

FP: Tell us about this document.

Kengor: It was a May 14, 1983 letter from the head of the KGB, Viktor Chebrikov, to the head of the USSR, the odious Yuri Andropov, with the highest level of classification. Chebrikov relayed to Andropov an offer from Senator Ted Kennedy, presented by Kennedy’s old friend and law-school buddy, John Tunney, a former Democratic senator from California, to reach out to the Soviet leadership at the height of a very hot time in the Cold War. According to Chebrikov, Kennedy was deeply troubled by the deteriorating relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union, which he believed was bringing us perilously close to nuclear confrontation. Kennedy, according to Chebrikov, blamed this situation not on the Soviet leadership but on the American president---Ronald Reagan. Not only was the USSR not to blame, but, said Chebrikov, Kennedy was, quite the contrary, “very impressed” with Andropov.

The thrust of the letter is that Reagan had to be stopped, meaning his alleged aggressive defense policies, which then ranged from the Pershing IIs to the MX to SDI, and even his re-election bid, needed to be stopped. It was Ronald Reagan who was the hindrance to peace. That view of Reagan is consistent with things that Kennedy said and wrote at the time, including articles in sources like Rolling Stone (March 1984) and in a speeches like his March 24, 1983 remarks on the Senate floor the day after Reagan’s SDI speech, which he lambasted as “misleading Red-Scare tactics and reckless Star Wars schemes.”

Even more interesting than Kennedy’s diagnosis was the prescription: According to Chebrikov, Kennedy suggested a number of PR moves to help the Soviets in terms of their public image with the American public. He reportedly believed that the Soviet problem was a communication problem, resulting from an inability to counter Reagan’s (not the USSR’s) “propaganda.” If only Americans could get through Reagan’s smokescreen and hear the Soviets’ peaceful intentions.

So, there was a plan, or at least a suggested plan, to hook up Andropov and other senior apparatchiks with the American media, where they could better present their message and make their case. Specifically, the names of Walter Cronkite and Barbara Walters are mentioned in the document. Also, Kennedy himself would travel to Moscow to meet with the dictator.

Time was of the essence, since Reagan, as the document privately acknowledged, was flying high en route to easy re-election in 1984.snip

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[Chris_]

The Democrat Party in America....appeasing tyranny for five decades.......

doc

[Airwolf]

That's easy. Fat Teddy has money and connections. Just as good as any Mafia Godfather has and he uses them just as easy .

[DumbAss Tanker]

Why is this Critter not in prison for treason ?

Because our society has certain lamentable aspects of an oligarchy when it comes to dealing with serious misconduct by the very wealthy and/or celebrities?

 

 

[Duke Nukum]

Wow, this put those Donahue/Posner satellite hookups in a new light.  I knew something was up with those at the time.

[Rebel]

Damn, KGB. Thought you were talking about me again. 

[JohnMatrix]

lets see the actual letter.

[Rebel]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

[JohnMatrix]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

[Duke Nukum]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

Maybe a trip to your local library is in order as stated above:

In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

[JohnMatrix]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

Maybe a trip to your local library is in order as stated above:

In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

[Rebel]

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

Anyone take the death of Mary Jo Kopechne seriously? He's untouchable.

[JohnMatrix]

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

Anyone take the death of Mary Jo Kopechne seriously? He's untouchable.

that was at least talked about in the media.  This is only being reported on that website. 

[Rebel]

that was at least talked about in the media.  This is only being reported on that website. 

Maybe they got the point that the fat ****ing douche is untouchable.

[Duke Nukum]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

Maybe a trip to your local library is in order as stated above:

In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

A lot of things are true that aren't taken seriously if it goes against the power structure/media template.  For instance JFK's affair with Marilyn Monroe was widely known and unreported by the press corps. that covered Camelot.

A lot of things are false that are eagerly believed as if they were true if the power structure is for it, such as Global Warming(TM) or John McCain being a Conservative Republican.

If you want to see the document, like you originally stated, go to the library and look in the book and judge for yourself.  I think Frank has seriously over-rated your IQ, which is another one of those things that is eagerly believed in even though it means virtually  nothing.

[JohnMatrix]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

Maybe a trip to your local library is in order as stated above:

In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

A lot of things are true that aren't taken seriously if it goes against the power structure/media template.  For instance JFK's affair with Marilyn Monroe was widely known and unreported by the press corps. that covered Camelot.

A lot of things are false that are eagerly believed as if they were true if the power structure is for it, such as Global Warming(TM) or John McCain being a Conservative Republican.

If you want to see the document, like you originally stated, go to the library and look in the book and judge for yourself.  I think Frank has seriously over-rated your IQ, which is another one of those things that is eagerly believed in even though it means virtually  nothing.

yep, its my IQ thats questionable when i ask to see a source for an incredibly serious accusation.  My bad.

[JohnMatrix]

Text of KGB Letter on Senator Ted Kennedy

Special Importance Committee on State Security of the USSR 14.05.1983 No. 1029 Ch/OV Moscow

Regarding Senator Kennedy’s request to the General Secretary of the Communist Party Comrade Y.V. Andropov Comrade Y.V. Andropov

On 9-10 May of this year, Senator Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant J. Tunney was in Moscow. The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov:

Senator Kennedy, like other rational people, is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations. Events are developing such that this relationship coupled with the general state of global affairs will make the situation even more dangerous. The main reason for this is Reagan’s belligerence, and his firm commitment to deploy new American middle range nuclear weapons within Western Europe.

According to Kennedy, the current threat is due to the President’s refusal to engage any modification on his politics. He feels that his domestic standing has been strengthened because of the well publicized improvements of the economy: inflation has been greatly reduced, production levels are increasing as is overall business activity. For these reasons, interest rates will continue to decline. The White House has portrayed this in the media as the “success of Reaganomics.”

Naturally, not everything in the province of economics has gone according to Reagan’s plan. A few well known economists and members of financial circles, particularly from the north-eastern states, foresee certain hidden tendencies that may bring about a new economic crisis in the USA. This could bring about the fall of the presidential campaign of 1984, which would benefit the Democratic party. Nevertheless, there are no secure assurances this will indeed develop.

The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations. These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign. The movement advocating a freeze on nuclear arsenals of both countries continues to gain strength in the United States. The movement is also willing to accept preparations, particularly from Kennedy, for its continued growth. In political and influential circles of the country, including within Congress, the resistance to growing military expenditures is gaining strength.

However, according to Kennedy, the opposition to Reagan is still very weak. Reagan’s adversaries are divided and the presentations they make are not fully effective. Meanwhile, Reagan has the capabilities to effectively counter any propaganda. In order to neutralize criticism that the talks between the USA and the USSR are non-constructive, Reagan will grandiose, but subjectively propagandistic. At the same time, Soviet officials who speak about disarmament will be quoted out of context, silenced or groundlessly and whimsically discounted. Although arguments and statements by officials of the USSR do appear in the press, it is important to note the majority of Americans do not read serious newspapers or periodicals.

Kennedy believes that, given the current state of affairs, and in the interest of peace, it would be prudent and timely to undertake the following steps to counter the militaristic politics of Reagan and his campaign to psychologically burden the American people. In this regard, he offers the following proposals to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Y.V. Andropov.

1. Kennedy asks Y.V. Andropov to consider inviting the senator to Moscow for a personal meeting in July of this year. The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA. He would also like to inform you that he has planned a trip through Western Europe, where he anticipates meeting England’s Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and French President Mitterand in which he will exchange similar ideas regarding the same issues.

If his proposals would be accepted in principle, Kennedy would send his representative to Moscow to resolve questions regarding organizing such a visit.

Kennedy thinks the benefit of a meeting with Y.V. Andropov will be enhanced if he could also invite one of the well known Republican senators, for example, Mark Hatfield. Such a meeting will have a strong impact on American and political circles in the USA. (In March of 1982, Hatfield and Kennedy proposed a project resolution to freeze the nuclear arsenals of the USA and the USSR and published a book on this theme as well.)

2. Kennedy believes that in order to influence Americans it would be important to organize in August-September of this year, televised interviews with Y.V. Andropov in the USA. A direct appeal by the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. The senator is convinced this would receive the maximum resonance in so far as television is the most effective method of mass media and information.

If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. Specifically, the president of the board of directors of ABC, Elton Raul and television columnists Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters could visit Moscow. The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.

Furthermore, with the same purpose in mind, a series of televised interviews in the USA with lower level Soviet officials, particularly from the military would be organized. They would also have an opportunity to appeal directly to the American people about the peaceful intentions of the USSR, with their own arguments about maintaining a true balance of power between the USSR and the USA in military terms. This issue is quickly being distorted by Reagan’s administration.

Kennedy asked to convey that this appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is his effort to contribute a strong proposal that would root out the threat of nuclear war, and to improve Soviet-American relations, so that they define the safety of the world. Kennedy is very impressed with the activities of Y.V. Andropov and other Soviet leaders, who expressed their commitment to heal international affairs, and improve mutual understanding between peoples.

The senator underscored that he eagerly awaits a reply to his appeal, the answer to which may be delivered through Tunney.

Having conveyed Kennedy’s appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Tunney also explained that Senator Kennedy has in the last few years actively made appearances to reduce the threat of war. Because he formally refused to partake in the election campaign of 1984, his speeches would be taken without prejudice as they are not tied to any campaign promises. Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988. At that time, he will be 56 and his personal problems, which could hinder his standing, will be resolved (Kennedy has just completed a divorce and plans to remarry in the near future). Taken together, Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president. This would explain why he is convinced that none of the candidates today have a real chance at defeating Reagan.

We await instructions.

President of the committee V. Chebrikov

[Airwolf]

lets see the actual letter.

.....and after days of absence, in chimes the Communist sympathizer. 

those are some pretty big accusations the guy is making.  Some evidence would be nice.  You know, something done here.  Not assuming guilt, like communists would do.

Maybe a trip to your local library is in order as stated above:

In my book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, I presented a rather eye-opening May 14, 1983 KGB document on Ted Kennedy. The entire document, unedited, unabridged, is printed in the book, as well as all the documentation affirming its authenticity. Even with that, today, almost 25 years later, it seems to have largely remained a secret.

ok, if this book is true, then why is no one but that website taking it seriously?

A lot of things are true that aren't taken seriously if it goes against the power structure/media template.  For instance JFK's affair with Marilyn Monroe was widely known and unreported by the press corps. that covered Camelot.

A lot of things are false that are eagerly believed as if they were true if the power structure is for it, such as Global Warming(TM) or John McCain being a Conservative Republican.

If you want to see the document, like you originally stated, go to the library and look in the book and judge for yourself.  I think Frank has seriously over-rated your IQ, which is another one of those things that is eagerly believed in even though it means virtually  nothing.

Hi5

[Baruch Menachem]

lets see the actual letter.

Ti znaesh kak chitat russkii yazik?


That would be a cool something to see though.   I wouldn't mind seeing it myself.

[JohnMatrix]

lets see the actual letter.

Ti znaesh kak chitat russkii yazik?


That would be a cool something to see though.   I wouldn't mind seeing it myself.

da, ya neploxo chitayu pa-russky.

i posted it above in english.